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Jake88 
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:59 pm to Anodyne)
Weren't we told repeatedly that debates had little influence on the campaign?
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alajones 
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Member since Oct 2005
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:34 pm to Jake88)
That's when we thought Obama would win them.
I think the biggest thing the debates did was show that Romney wasn't an evil capitalist. That's all a lot of people probably know of him. Bain capital, wealthy, etc.
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BigJim
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:36 pm to alajones)
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The problem is, any sort of "tie" will be viewed and touted as an Obama win. Even more so after his arse whipping the other night.
Romney has to destroy him in every debate for him to really "win".
I dont' see it happening in foreign policy.
Agree. But a "tie" is good enough for Romney on foreign policy.
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Choctaw 
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:45 pm to alajones)
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I dont' see it happening in foreign policy.
i do. Obama has ending the Iraq War (which he did on Bush's terms) and killing Bin Laden.
Romney has...
Syria
Lybia
Iran
Israel
Muslim Brotherhood
U.S. embassies
dead U.S. ambassadors
Fast & Furious
GITMO
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Fun Bunch 
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:46 pm to geauxturbo)
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Have you ever seen Obama in a town hall when asked a tough question? He sucks at it. Ummm uh uh uh uh.. hold on... hold on.. yeah.. umm, uh uh uh uh uh uh I know you.. hold on.. yeah, umm uh uh uh uh.. Look, Bush gave me the keys to car when it was already in the ditch... ya know.. hahahah.. um...so yeah.. Bush ya know..
You're assuming Obama gets a tough question.
He'll get this:
"Mr. President, what's your thoughts on Nazis?"
And Romney will get:
"Mr. Romney, given the current geopolitical climate and your known rampant fascism and racism, I have devised an algorithm that clearly demonstrates why America's position in the world is what it is and what we have to do about it. Here it is filling up this entire blackboard with advanced mathematical concepts. Please comment in less than 30 seconds."
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JohnnyKilroy 
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:52 pm to Choctaw)
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i do. Obama has ending the Iraq War (which he did on Bush's terms) and killing Bin Laden.
Romney has...
Syria
Lybia
Iran
Israel
Muslim Brotherhood
U.S. embassies
dead U.S. ambassadors
Fast & Furious
GITMO
Except that Romney probably won't focus as much on those as he will focus on the potential Iran threat.
I swear if Romney beats the war drums in the FP debate and loses the election, he deserved to.
Americans are SICK of war.
Also, he has already presented his vision for the economy/taxes. If his vision for FP implies an imminent war with Iran, Obama will have a hanging curve just waiting to be blasted out of the park.
What was the name of the last president who slashed taxes while starting a war in the mid-east?
If Romney gives the impression that war with Iran is in the imminent future, he WILL lose all the momentum he currently enjoys, and he WILL lose.
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RTR America 
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Member since Aug 2012
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 5:15 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
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Except that Romney probably won't focus as much on those as he will focus on the potential Iran threat.
I swear if Romney beats the war drums in the FP debate and loses the election, he deserved to.
Americans are SICK of war.
Also, he has already presented his vision for the economy/taxes. If his vision for FP implies an imminent war with Iran, Obama will have a hanging curve just waiting to be blasted out of the park.
What was the name of the last president who slashed taxes while starting a war in the mid-east?
If Romney gives the impression that war with Iran is in the imminent future, he WILL lose all the momentum he currently enjoys, and he WILL lose.
Jesus the pussification of America is ridiculous. Romney isn't beating the war drums. He is showing strength like every President has before Obama. Obama makes us appear weak. "You build the bomb in hopes of never having to use the bomb"
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Elcid96
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Member since May 2010
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 5:21 pm to alajones)
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The problem is, any sort of "tie" will be viewed and touted as an Obama win.
Yep, I can't wait to hear this spin.
If Obama does any better at all (which wouldn't be much) the media will say the following:
- Come back kid
- That's what fighters do, they get back up and thats what Obama will do for you
- Romney just awoke a tiger
You get the idea, should be comical.
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JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 5:51 pm to RTR America)
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Jesus the pussification of America is ridiculous. Romney isn't beating the war drums. He is showing strength like every President has before Obama. Obama makes us appear weak. "You build the bomb in hopes of never having to use the bomb"
Meh, we will see in the debate. Obama has sucked dick in terms of FP. Killing Osama <<<<<<< F&F/Bengahzigate/etc... I'm just concerned that Romney will give the impression that a Romney presidency = a new war. He certainly runs that risk. I hope he can assure voters that this isn't the case.
If we are pushed into war with Iran, will the end goal be to instill democracy (a la Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya)? We can't afford that. PERIOD.
I'm all for doing what is NECESSARY to protect ourselves. Picking sides in syria and sending American weapons to rebels is NOT necessary, or a very smart strategy (has it EVER worked long term?)
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NHTIGER
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Member since Nov 2003
6486 posts
| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 6:16 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
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Except that Romney probably won't focus as much on those as he will focus on the potential Iran threat.
Words right out of Obama's mouth in the Second Presidential Debate in 2008:
"We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists.
And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it.
And we will never take military options off the table. And it is important that we don't provide veto power to the United Nations or anyone else in acting in our interests."
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JohnnyKilroy
North Carolina Fan
Member since Oct 2012
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 6:23 pm to NHTIGER)
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Words right out of Obama's mouth in the Second Presidential Debate in 2008:
And I hope IF Romney goes down that path, he makes damn sure to highlight what you just posted.
I just think that in 2012, facing 16 T in debt and a SHITLOAD more on the way from obamacare, war with Iran will not sell well.
I'm not saying Romney WILL beat the war drums. I'm just hoping he won't. When coupled with his economic plan, any allusion to potential war in the mid-east sets up an EASY comparison to Bush. Right, wrong, whatever. The Obama campaign will pounce, and the MSM will sieze the opportunity to bury Mitt on it every second leading up to Nov 6.
This post was edited on 10/9 at 6:27 pm
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lsu480 
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 6:24 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
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If Romney gives the impression that war with Iran is in the imminent future, he WILL lose all the momentum he currently enjoys, and he WILL lose.
I agree with this and I have no idea why he keeps hinting that it is imminent.
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USMCTiger03
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2007
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:50 pm to FairhopeTider)
One of only two pro-Obama polls, Politico/GWU/Battleground:
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about 85 percent of the calls were made before the debate on Wednesday night. The final night of tracking was good for Romney, but it’s not a big enough sample to report. So this does not reflect any momentum Romney might get from his performance in Denver.
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constant cough
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Member since Jun 2007
28320 posts
| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:52 pm to FairhopeTider)
Obama's done. It's over.
No, like seriously. It's over.
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FairhopeTider
Alabama Fan
Pt. Clear, Alabama
Member since May 2012
1453 posts
| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 8:57 pm to USMCTiger03)
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about 85 percent of the calls were made before the debate on Wednesday night. The final night of tracking was good for Romney, but it’s not a big enough sample to report. So this does not reflect any momentum Romney might get from his performance in Denver.
What idiot conducts a poll knowing full well a major political event will happen in the middle of the survey?
This post was edited on 10/9 at 8:58 pm
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CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:09 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
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Romney had nothing to gain with this reference.
Uh, he got the Obama Pacs to start running Big Bird commercials that Officially make them look pre-schoolish....hookset!
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CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:11 pm to constant cough)
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No, like seriously. It's over.
It is, and I never thought this would happen. Momentum is a strange force.
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FairhopeTider
Alabama Fan
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Member since May 2012
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| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:26 pm to CamdenTiger)
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It is, and I never thought this would happen. Momentum is a strange force.
Things are looking good, but it isn't over yet. A lot can happen in 4 weeks. That said, I've never seen a campaign turn like this. It's like Romney shook the stupid out of the nation last week and got people to realize that the image of Obama was greater than the real Obama. The Obama brand took a huge blow. More importantly, Romney finally gave his supporters a damn good reason to get energized FOR him. That's huge.
Now we're going to see if the Obama campaign has it in them to come from behind. If they keep up with this liar charge and Big Bird crap, they're going to lose. They look like some high powered spread offense that's used to running gimmicks and scoring 50 points that suddenly found itself having to slug it out in the trenches against a good defense.
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lsudaboss
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Member since Jul 2010
576 posts
| re: Romney takes lead in the RCP Average (Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:48 pm to FairhopeTider)
Thank god!!!
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