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udtiger 
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:05 pm to Decatur)
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Since they whiffed on that
Even the IG noted WH stonewalling and let's not forget a key figure conincidentally being transferred to Iraq.
Applying your logic, if Nixon had just burned the tapes, the Watergate Committee would have "whiffed."
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BigBoyTiger
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:05 pm to buddhavista)
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sure its his job but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is a piece of human garbage. not the worst rep in the house, but in the bottom 50 for sure.
Opinions need the backing of facts. You can't just come on here and say the guy sucks without telling us why he sucks.
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ljhog 
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:06 pm to Decatur)
They should send the House Dems to Libya to investigate and LEAVE THEM THERE!!
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TigerTattle
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:09 pm to ljhog)
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They should send the House Dems to Libya to investigate and LEAVE THEM THERE!!
While denying their requests for security details.
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buddhavista
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:14 pm to CptBengal)
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why is he human garbage?
You know he was indicted for stealing a car (case dismissed), arrested for a weapons charge and has been accused of arson/insurance fraud? All of this came out BEFORE he ran for office.
He is also in the back pocket of various industries and is a strong supporter of the gov't to censure the internet. Yes, he was against SOPA but he was a strong supporter of CISPA, which is almost as bad. He is corrupt. Look into it.
I love going after fast and furious but where the frick have the other investigations been?
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Paluka
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:26 pm to Decatur)
Sen. Kerry also requested more info from the WH on the Libya attacks. He is pissed.
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CptBengal 
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:29 pm to buddhavista)
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ndicted for stealing a car (case dismissed)
so he wasn't guilty.
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arrested for a weapons charge
what was the charge?
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has been accused of arson/insurance fraud?
Is this like the Reid "allegations"?
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Yes, he was against SOPA but he was a strong supporter of CISPA,
That's not good.
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where the frick have the other investigations been?
investigations into what?
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:31 pm to Decatur)
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Since they whiffed on that now they are trying to score political points with the Libya investigation.
So you don't think there is anything to look at in the Libyan Catastrophe? In Susan Rice's blame-it-on-the-video Sunday Morning talk show tour? Nothing to see here?
Are you under the remotest of opinions that Elijah Cummings is anything other than a duplicitous partisan? He was given a 24-hr notice by Issa. Perhaps Elijah should have picked up his Obamaphone at some point in that 24-hrs and given Issa a call if he wanted more information about the trip. On the other hand, Elijah Cummings is just the kind of tendentious partisan who would scuttle and investigation and sweep incompetent buffoonery under the rug if he could -- even if it cost people their lives.
This post was edited on 10/9 at 1:33 pm
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buddhavista
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:39 pm to CptBengal)
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so he wasn't guilty.
case dismissed doesn't mean he was not guilty.
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Is this like the Reid "allegations"?
No, it was more like he took out more fire insurance on a warehouse, and then shortly after it burned down. We are talking weeks.
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investigations into what?
hacking of 9/11 phone victims / fox news scandal. if they can investigate steriod use in the WWE, they can investigate this.
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CptBengal
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:42 pm to buddhavista)
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case dismissed doesn't mean he was not guilty.
yes it does. Guilt is determined in a court of law.
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No, it was more like he took out more fire insurance on a warehouse, and then shortly after it burned down. We are talking weeks.
link?
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hacking of 9/11 phone victims / fox news scandal. if they can investigate steriod use in the WWE, they can investigate this.
fox news hacked 9/11 people?
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LSURussian
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:47 pm to Decatur)
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The secretive trip
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24 hours notice of the trip
Does. Not. Compute.
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buddhavista
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:52 pm to CptBengal)
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yes it does. Guilt is determined in a court of law.
so OJ didn't kill his wife. Got it.
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link?
first google link, yes its a partisan website but sources newspaper articles prior to issa's run for the house.
LINK
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fox news hacked 9/11 people?
poorly phrased, but there are allegations that news corp hacked into 9/11 victims phones. Why is that not being investigated? Seems like a pretty big deal to me, certainly activities like that brought on significant charge against civilian and gov't officials in the UK.
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wickowick
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:57 pm to buddhavista)
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poorly phrased, but there are allegations that news corp hacked into 9/11 victims phones. Why is that not being investigated?
House oversight =/= DOJ...
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WildTchoupitoulas
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:59 pm to MFn GIMP)
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So a hearing on security lapses that led to a terrorist attack that killed a sitting US Ambassadord, held by the House committee charged with oversight, is "politically charged?"
Of course it is, every congressional hearing these days is politically charged. We can't seem to conduct ANY government business because the whole atmosphere of Washington is politicaly charged.
Hell, we can't even conduct civil discussions on the PoliBoard because the discourse is so politically charged.
Americans are now picking their churches, not out of religious belief, but out of political belief.
What makes you think a congressional hearing on security lapses wouldn't be politically charged?
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WildTchoupitoulas
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:01 pm to BigBoyTiger)
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You can't just come on here and say the guy sucks without telling us why he sucks.
You forget where you are...
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CptBengal
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:01 pm to WildTchoupitoulas)
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We can't seem to conduct ANY government business because the whole atmosphere of Washington is politicaly charged.
investigating the death of an ambassador, where the admin lied about it...is politically charged?
yeah, BECAUSE THEY LIED.
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buddhavista
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:01 pm to wickowick)
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House oversight =/= DOJ...
they investigated MLB steriods and WWE steriods. How is that relevant but this is not?
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BlackHelicopterPilot
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:05 pm to buddhavista)
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they investigated MLB steriods and WWE steriods. How is that relevant but this is not?
Dude! (or Dudette?). How does the investigation, or lack thereof, from past events make a difference on what gets investigated today?
I am serious. So, you think some other issues were fumbled, or handled wrongly, soooo there can NEVER be any other investigation?
IF they were wrong in the past, are you saying they can never undertake another in the future?
I don't understand the point of bringing up past issues in relation to now. Either they will find evidence or they won't. We will see.
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USMCTiger03
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:37 pm to buddhavista)
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You know he was indicted for stealing a car (case dismissed), arrested for a weapons charge and has been accused of arson/insurance fraud? All of this came out BEFORE he ran for office.
I'd like to look into that when I have more time, but I found something interesting.
Issa's wiki page makes hay out of a claim that Issa "claimed his unit provided security for President Richard Nixon, sweeping stadiums for bombs prior to games in the 1971 World Series" but that "a 1998 investigation by the San Francisco Examiner found these claims were not true, since Nixon had not attended any of that year's World Series games."
Strangely, I (not a "journalist") in five minutes found:
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1971 World Series Fast Facts
Game 2
Date / Box Score 10-11-1971
Location Memorial Stadium
1st Pitch From To
Pat Nixon (Wife of Richard Nixon) Ellie Hendricks
Attendance 53,239
LINK
Obviously, that's not a huge deal, but the sources of the negative information about Issa seem to be one article "a 1998 investigation by the San Francisco Examiner" and another on January 24, 2011 by the New Yorker basically re-hashing the old stuff.
If they went through the trouble of misrepresenting the Nixon thing, I wonder what else they misrepresented?
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Interception
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| re: Rep. Issa cutting House Dems out of Libya investigation (Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:41 pm to Decatur)
Honestly, the State Department is basically stonewalling on Libya. That's an unacceptable approach. Plus, the findings won't come out of the internal State Department investigation for 90 days?
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