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LSUnKaty
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Here's a question for you. How do you think the Black vote would split if Hillary Clinton was in an election against Herman Cain?
That's a good point, but do you really think this ALL relates back to ideology.

I mean how many of those voters really know the basics of each political ideology and how those concepts relate to social and fiscal programs. How many do you think have the slightest idea for example of how the Fed works to manipulate the economy and how politics has a hand in that with regard to the dual mandate. Or what debt and inflation really is or what it means to them and their children. How many know what the fiscal and social programs they want really costs the country - good or bad, not saying it's not worth it, but do they even know the cost?

I can tell you most of the white people I grew up with in Louisiana - Democrat or Republican - have no clue about such things beyond what they hear in sound bites and political campaign adds. They simply do not truly understand the ideology.

So when they have numerous of their trusted social and political leaders supporting ideas and endorsing candidates, and they follow along (as happens on both sides) - can this really be considered voting based on ideology?






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Zach
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Track, I have posted this before on this board but I would honestly like your opinion.

True story. Had a discussion with my old friend Byron, black intellectual from New Orleans.

Byron: Socialism is the logical policy for blacks. Capitalism rewards intelligence and hard work. That's to the advantage of whites. So, blacks should vote in their own self interest toward socialism.

Me: So, you're saying that blacks are lazy and stupid?

Byron: In general, Yes.

Your thoughts on Byron's analysis, Trackfan?






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chinhoyang
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None are as loyal to the Democratic party than the Jewish community.
The support has always puzzled me, especially since Obama does not seem to be particularly friendly to Israel.






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davesdawgs
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once again, if whites were as racist as blacks Obama never would have been elected


The counter is always that Blacks vote for Dems regardless but IMHO it does not negate your premise.






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trackfan
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That's a good point, but do you really think this ALL relates back to ideology.

I mean how many of those voters really know the basics of each political ideology and how those concepts relate to social and fiscal programs. How many do you think have the slightest idea for example of how the Fed works to manipulate the economy and how politics has a hand in that with regard to the dual mandate. Or what debt and inflation really is or what it means to them and their children. How many know what the fiscal and social programs they want really costs the country - good or bad, not saying it's not worth it, but do they even know the cost?

I can tell you most of the white people I grew up with in Louisiana - Democrat or Republican - have no clue about such things beyond what they hear in sound bites and political campaign adds. They simply do not truly understand the ideology.

So when they have numerous of their trusted social and political leaders supporting ideas and endorsing candidates, and they follow along (as happens on both sides) - can this really be considered voting based on ideology?

Great post! I would concede that Blacks, like most people are influenced by group think when it comes to voting. However, everyone in my immediate family has voted for the Republican Presidential nominee AND the Republican Gubernatorial nominee at least once since they became old enough to vote.






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Me: So, you're saying that blacks are lazy and stupid?

Byron: In general, Yes.

Your thoughts on Byron's analysis, Trackfan?



question won't be answered.






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Darth_Vader
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Great post! I would concede that Blacks, like most people are influenced by group think when it comes to voting. However, everyone in my immediate family has voted for the Republican Presidential nominee AND the Republican Gubernatorial nominee at least once since they became old enough to vote.


All that is well and good. I still want to know what is it that Obama has done for the black community that would garner more than 2% of their vote? I'm not talking rhetoric or promises, I'm talk how has the black community fared under an Obama presidency? That's the whole point behind my joke about food stamps, welfare, and free cell phones. and while that is a joke, it also is in fact these are the only tangible things he's brought to the table. So if it's not these things they support him for, and it's not his race, what the hell is it?!?



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LSUnKaty
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However, everyone in my immediate family has voted for the Republican Presidential nominee AND the Republican Gubernatorial nominee at least once since they became old enough to vote.


I commend them for that! Not for their particular votes, but for having open minds.








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trackfan
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Track, I have posted this before on this board but I would honestly like your opinion.

True story. Had a discussion with my old friend Byron, black intellectual from New Orleans.

Byron: Socialism is the logical policy for blacks. Capitalism rewards intelligence and hard work. That's to the advantage of whites. So, blacks should vote in their own self interest toward socialism.

Me: So, you're saying that blacks are lazy and stupid?

Byron: In general, Yes.

Your thoughts on Byron's analysis, Trackfan?

I vehemently disagree with him. I'm against lowering test scores on standardized test for minorities and I'm against quotas in 2012. JC Watts put it this way: "If little White Johnny knows that 2+2=4 and little Black Joey doesn't know that 2+2=4, then we should try to figure out why Joey doesn't know it, don't give him a pass." I agree with his thinking.

By the way, my mother, a lifelong teacher has always been a big advocate for using standardized tests to evaulate teachers, and she felt that the teachers who were opposed to test evaluations, were opposed largely because they knew they were ignorant and couldn't pass these tests.






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Thats my question? i can understand the 1st time,but why in the hell would you vote for this clown again in such high %'s? Im hoping they prove me wrong and alot of blacks stay home this time.Hell blacks did alot better under GWB!





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Shankopotomus
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ok, so then you can agree that the twitter respondents were ridiculous correct?







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bigbowe80
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When you have things like Black caucus leader saying if the president was not black they would have already marched on the white house (due to the high minority unemployment rate) but since he is black, they will never do that.

Any minority who dares speak out against the President or the Dems is labled an "uncle Tom". Why can black churches bring in Democratic leaders and politicians and give a charge to the church to vote "the right way" and still keep their tax exempt status.

I had to give props to the preacher in North Carolina who finally had enough and spoke out. That took alot of courage.






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trackfan
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All that is well and good. I still want to know what is it that Obama has done for the black community that would garner more than 2% of their vote? I'm not talking rhetoric or promises, I'm talk how has the black community fared under an Obama presidency? That's the whole point behind my joke about food stamps, welfare, and free cell phones. and while that is a joke, it also is in fact these are the only tangible things he's brought to the table. So if it's not these things they support him for, and it's not his race, what the hell is it?!?

This may surprise you but I don't judge Obama based on what I think he's done speccifically for Blacks, it's much broader than that for me. Obama is simply the lesser of evils as far as I'm concerned. FYI, if Ron Paul were the Republican nominee, I would vote for him over Obama in a heartbeat, but Romney is the nominee, not Paul.

What is it that you like about Romney? Do you think he's a true fiscal conservative? Do you like his foreign policy? Or is he likely just another big-spending Republican who will get us into unecessary wars, a la W?






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ok, so then you can agree that the twitter respondents were ridiculous correct?

Absolutely!

EDIT: I think a lot of Blacks play the house slave/Uncle Tom card much too frivilously and recklessly.



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trackfan
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When you have things like Black caucus leader saying if the president was not black they would have already marched on the white house (due to the high minority unemployment rate) but since he is black, they will never do that.

It's called tribalism. Bill Richardson admitted that he had a hard time criticizing Alberto Gonzales because he was Hispanic. Also, several Jewish Congressman once told a columninst for a major magazine (Newsweek?) that they were appalled when Joe Lieberman attacked Obama by invoking the Holocaust in 2008 when he was campaigniong for McCain but that they couldn't bring themselves to criticize him because he was a fellow Jew.






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deltaland
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It's sad that so many black people bash other blacks for living a successful life and using their brains to form a decision instead of skin color.

It really drags down the African American population and hinders them from getting past their stereotypes. If they would get over themselves and stop shite like this then race relations in this country would improve a lot. White people have let it go for the most part, it's time that they do the same.






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Darth_Vader
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This may surprise you but I don't judge Obama based on what I think he's done speccifically for Blacks, it's much broader than that for me. Obama is simply the lesser of evils as far as I'm concerned. FYI, if Ron Paul were the Republican nominee, I would vote for him over Obama in a heartbeat, but Romney is the nominee, not Paul.

What is it that you like about Romney? Do you think he's a true fiscal conservative? Do you like his foreign policy? Or is he likely just another big-spending Republican who will get us into unecessary wars, a la W?


Romney is a very successful businessman who has a vast amount of experience in being a chief executive. Unlike Obama, Romney knows what it is that sparks the economy rather than burdens it down. Romney wants to develop our own natural resources instead of relying on wack jobs and thugs in the Middle East. Romney wants to actually address the looming catastrophe that is Medicare, entitlements, and the national debt and has a plan to do it. Romney will actually show some backbone when it comes to Iran and their nukes. I see you claim he wants an "unnecessary" war? That's laughable. What he does not want is an nuclear armed Iran. considering Iran's track record on terrorism, any logical person would agree the world cannot tolerate Iran having nukes because they will not hesitate to use them on us, Europe, or Israel at the first chance.

And how, looking back at the last 4 abysmal years, could anyone think Obama is the "lesser of two evils"? He has the absolute worst record of any president in the history of this country, including Jimmy freaking Carter. There are less people working today than when he took office. Gas prices have gone up over 100% since he took office. Home ownership is somewhere around a 30 year low. Poverty rates have gone through the roof under Obama. More and more people are simply giving up any hope of finding a job so they just go on welfare & food stamps under Obama. The national debt has exploded under Obama. The value of the US dollar has been devastated under Obama. The gains we made in Iraq are slipping away under Obama. Afghanistan is lost under Obama. The entire Middle East has exploded under Obama. Our Libyan embassy was attacked and our ambassador murdered under Obama and his answer was to blame some stupid Youtube video. But hey, at least we got UBL and passed Obamacare, right??






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LSUnKaty
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FYI, if Ron Paul were the Republican nominee, I would vote for him over Obama in a heartbeat, but Romney is the nominee, not Paul.

What is it that you like about Romney? Do you think he's a true fiscal conservative? Do you like his foreign policy? Or is he likely just another big-spending Republican who will get us into unecessary wars, a la W?

I like you would rather Paul to either, but as you say, Paul is not the nominee.

I can not vote for Obama however because he is to dangerous to liberty. It is obvious to me he wants to consolidate as much power as he can - all if he could do it - in the hands of the federal government and this would be a disaster for liberty in this country.






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alajones
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Could someone post an abstract for those of us at work?





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windhammontanatigers
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Once again, racism at its finest. Been going on for years, but the MSM just refuses to report it.





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