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Wolfhound45 
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| Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:16 pm)
Saw this linked from the Drudge Report and had to post;
Did Obama Just Throw the Entire Election Away?
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I'm trying to see a silver lining. But when a president self-immolates on live TV, and his opponent shines with lies and smiles, and a record number of people watch, it's hard to see how a president and his party recover. I'm not giving up. If the lies and propaganda of the last four years work even after Obama had managed to fight back solidly against them to get a clear and solid lead in critical states, then reality-based government is over in this country again. We're back to Bush-Cheney, but more extreme. We have to find a way to avoid that. Much, much more than Obama's vanity is at stake.
Love the angst...
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PRK
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:17 pm to Wolfhound45)
Obama wins comfortably.
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RTR America 
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:21 pm to PRK)
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Obama wins comfortably.
How's that kool-aid taste? Maybe you should look at EVERY single poll that has been posted in the last 2 days.
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:22 pm to RTR America)
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How's that kool-aid taste? Maybe you should look at EVERY single poll that has been posted in the last 2 days.
Interested in a ban bet?
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Wolfhound45
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:23 pm to PRK)
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Obama retires comfortably.
FIFY
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glaucon
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:38 pm to Wolfhound45)
Sullivan has been pissed since the debate. I think he is being a bit to much of a drama queen but, eh, it was a really bad performance.
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faxis
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:01 am to PRK)
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Obama wins comfortably.
That's some astonishingly resilient denial you've got going on there.
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PRK
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:06 am to faxis)
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That's some astonishingly resilient denial you've got going on there.
It's a fact consequent of the nature of the Electoral College (which I'm in favor of abolishing) and the reality that Mitt Romney is an absolutely horrible candidate. For any policy stance he's taken, I can find a video of him contradicting himself. It's actually sad that he was the best the GOP had to offer in the primaries (and he truly was the best).
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faxis
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:10 am to PRK)
Makes no difference.
We have four years of Obama's real policy to draw from. Kinda hard to spin that unless you just completely turn off your brain.
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PRK
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:12 am to faxis)
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We have four years of Obama's real policy to draw from. Kinda hard to spin that unless you just completely turn off your brain.
Obama has been an extremely effective President. He's pushed through some major bills. He has a solid record to run on. Just because you don't agree with his policies doesn't change the fact that he's been effective.
Obama will win comfortably.
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RTR America
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:15 am to PRK)
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I can find a video of him contradicting himself.
So Romney is a flip flopper, but Obama evolved?
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:16 am to PRK)
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Obama will win comfortably.
Probably nothing he can do to lose. He has lost all respect though, not just of the moderates. Hardcore left don't respect him anymore.
He will win, but probably do as much damage to the Democratic party in the process as Bush did to the Republicans.
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ReauxlTide222
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:17 am to PRK)
Has Obama ever flip-flopped and anything important?
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PRK
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:23 am to RogerTheShrubber)
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Hardcore left don't respect him anymore.
As someone you'd probably consider to be on the "hardcore left" (I have more in common with Jill Stein than Barack Obama), I must agree.
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He will win, but probably do as much damage to the Democratic party in the process as Bush did to the Republicans.
Doubtful. He couldn't create an economic mess larger than Bush, and he won't get us into another Vietnam.
The real benefit of another Obama presidency is Supreme Court nominations.
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faxis
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:24 am to ReauxlTide222)
Gitmo.
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faxis
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:24 am to ReauxlTide222)
War.
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RTR America
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:24 am to PRK)
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He has a solid record to run on.
Da fuq?
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faxis
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:24 am to ReauxlTide222)
Civil liberties.
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:26 am to PRK)
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Doubtful. He couldn't create an economic mess larger than Bush,
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and he won't get us into another Vietnam.
He sure ain't getting us out of the one we are in.
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The real benefit of another Obama presidency is Supreme Court nominations.
He would probably frick that up too.
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faxis
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| re: Andrew Sullivan Commentary - The Daily Beast (Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:26 am to PRK)
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He couldn't create an economic mess larger than Bush, and he won't get us into another Vietnam.
What do you call Afghanistan?
Bush should have never put regular troops in there to hold ground but Obama doubled down and is losing bigtime.
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