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buddhavista
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examples of Romney misrepresenting his positions


its obama's job to call those out. He failed at this task and thus lost the debate.






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Guchi
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re: Does the President need a kick arse performance?


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its obama's job to call those out. He failed at this task and thus lost the debate.



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ottothewise
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re: Does the President need a kick arse performance?


LINK /

Obama needs to address just a few of Romney's pinnochio stories from the last debate.

the link lists 27 myths Romney told in his time during the debate.

[quote]1) “[G]et us energy independent, North American energy independent. That creates about 4 million jobs”. Romney’s plan for “energy independence” actually relies heavily on a study that assumes the U.S. continues with fuel efficiency standards set by the Obama administration. For instance, he uses Citigroup research based off the assumption that “‘the United States will continue with strict fuel economy standards that will lower its oil demand.” Since he promises to undo the Obama administration’s new fuel efficiency standards, he would cut oil consumption savings of 2 million barrels per day by 2025.

3) “My view is that we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. But I’m not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high-income people.” If Romney hopes to provide tax relief to the middle class, then his $5 trillion tax cut would add to the deficit. There are not enough deductions in the tax code that primarily benefit rich people to make his math work.
4) “My — my number-one principal is, there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. I want to underline that: no tax cut that adds to the deficit.” As the Tax Policy Center concluded, Romney’s plan can’t both exempt middle class families from tax cuts and remain revenue neutral. “He’s promised all these things and he can’t do them all. In order for him to cover the cost of his tax cut without adding to the deficit, he’d have to find a way to raise taxes on middle income people or people making less than $200,000 a year,” the Center found.
5) “I will not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle-income families. I will lower taxes on middle-income families. Now, you cite a study. There are six other studies that looked at the study you describe and say it’s completely wrong.” The studies Romney cites actually further prove that Romney would, in fact, have to raise taxes on the middle class if he were to keep his promise not to lose revenue with his tax rate reduction.

7) “And the reason is because small business pays that individual rate; 54 percent of America’s workers work in businesses that are taxed not at the corporate tax rate, but at the individual tax rate….97 percent of the businesses are not — not taxed at the 35 percent tax rate, they’re taxed at a lower rate. But those businesses that are in the last 3 percent of businesses happen to employ half — half of all the people who work in small business.” Far less than half of the people affected by the expiration of the upper income tax cuts get any of their income at all from a small businesses. And those people could very well be receiving speaking fees or book royalties, which qualify as “small business income” but don’t have a direct impact on job creation. It’s actually hard to find a small business who think that they will be hurt if the marginal tax rate on income earned above $250,000 per year is increased.
8) “Mr. President, all of the increase in natural gas and oil has happened on private land, not on government land. On government land, your administration has cut the number of permits and licenses in half.” Oil production from federal lands is higher, not lower: Production from federal lands is up slightly in 2011 when compared to 2007. And the oil and gas industry is sitting on 7,000 approved permits to drill, that it hasn’t begun exploring or developing.

10) “That’s why the National Federation of Independent Businesses said your plan will kill 700,000 jobs. I don’t want to kill jobs in this environment.” That study, produced by a right-wing advocacy organization, doesn’t analyze what Obama has actually proposed.
11) “What we do have right now is a setting where I’d like to bring money from overseas back to this country.” Romney’s plan to shift the country to a territorial tax system would allow corporations to do business and make profits overseas without ever being taxed on it in the United States. This encourages American companies to invest abroad and could cost the country up to 800,000 jobs.
12) “I would like to take the Medicaid dollars that go to states and say to a state, you’re going to get what you got last year, plus inflation, plus 1 percent, and then you’re going to manage your care for your poor in the way you think best.” Sending federal Medicaid funding to the states in the form of a block grant woud significantly reduce federal spending for Medicaid because the grant would not keep up with projected health care costs. A CBO estimate of a very similar proposal from Paul Ryan found that federal spending would be “35 percent lower in 2022 and 49 percent lower in 2030 than current projected federal spending” and as a result “states would face significant challenges in achieving sufficient cost savings through efficiencies to mitigate the loss of federal funding.” “To maintain current service levels in the Medicaid program, states would probably need to consider additional changes, such as reducing their spending on other programs or raising additional revenues,” the CBO found.
13) “I want to take that $716 billion you’ve cut and put it back into Medicare…. But the idea of cutting $716 billion from Medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of Obamacare is, in my opinion, a mistake. There’s that number again. Romney is claiming that Obamacare siphons off $716 billion from Medicare, to the detriment of beneficiaries. In actuality, that money is saved primarily through reducing over-payments to insurance companies under Medicare Advantage, not payments to beneficiaries. Paul Ryan’s budget plan keeps those same cuts, but directs them toward tax cuts for the rich and deficit reduction.
14) “What I support is no change for current retirees and near-retirees to Medicare.” Here is how Romney’s Medicare plan will affect current seniors: 1) by repealing Obamacare, the 16 million seniors receiving preventive benefits without deductibles or co-pays and are saving $3.9 billion on prescription drugs will see a cost increase, 2) “premium support” will increase premiums for existing beneficiaries as private insurers lure healthier seniors out of the traditional Medicare program, 3) Romney/Ryan would also lower Medicaid spending significantly beginning next year, shifting federal spending to states and beneficiaries, and increasing costs for the 9 million Medicare recipients who are dependent on Medicaid.
15) “Number two is for people coming along that are young, what I do to make sure that we can keep Medicare in place for them is to allow them either to choose the current Medicare program or a private plan. Their choice. They get to choose — and they’ll have at least two plans that will be entirely at no cost to them.” The Medicare program changes for everyone, even people who choose to remain in the traditional fee-for-service. Rather than relying on a guaranteed benefit, all beneficiaries will receive a premium support credit of $7,500 on average in 2023 to purchase coverage in traditional Medicare or private insurance. But that amount will only grow at a rate of GDP plus 1.5 percentage points and will not keep up with health care costs. So while the federal government will spend less on the program, seniors will pay more in premiums.



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jcole4lsu
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re: Does the President need a kick arse performance?


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Obama needs to address just a few of Romney's pinnochio stories from the last debate.


Its hilarious you think Romney is the only one who told anything other than the cold hard truth in that debate.






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notslim99
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re: Does the President need a kick arse performance?


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Obama needs to address just a few of Romney's pinnochio stories from the last debate.


If Romney's "lies" were so dubious, why didn't Obama address them in the first debate? Why can't Obama protect America from being "fooled" by Romney's horrible "lies?" Did he not know or was he playing close to the chest? Maybe he was shocked at the brashness of Romney's supposed falsehoods?

The bottom line is that Romney has a better idea of how to run this country, and he was effective at giving his ideas without going into detail, which would have taken hours. I was conceding an Obama victory when Romney was nominated, but if this trend continues, we may see 1980 again.



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lsu480
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re: Does the President need a kick arse performance?


Nah.....Romney is a Mormon that ain't got no hoes so Obama is a lock.





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LSUCouyon
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I hope you BOH supporters understand WHY he lost the debate. He has nothing to stand on. His record is horrible. Take a look at his campaign today. He is resorting to "character" issues these
days because he can't run on his "record." I hope and pray that at least a portion of the Hope and change crowd comes to the conclusion that, "Okay, we tried a social experiment and that didn't work.' At least they can be proud that they voted for the first black president.






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Toddy
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re: Does the President need a kick arse performance?


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Obama is losing in the democrat-skewed polls, in every battleground state. Wake up.



I don't believe that. Link please?






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lsu_tiger_az
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re: Does the President need a kick arse performance?


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Does the President need a kick arse performance?


No......

the only thing the President needs is a swift kick in the arse on his way out of the White House in January!







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dr smartass phd
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If this is the attitude he is taking, there won't be any kickass coming, just more epic fail.

Mr. Obama does not like debates to begin with, aides have long said, viewing them as media-driven gamesmanship. He did not do all that well in 2008 but benefited from Senator John McCain’s grumpy performances. Mr. Obama made clear to advisers that he was not happy about debating Mr. Romney, whom he views with disdain. It was something to endure, rather than an opportunity, aides said.

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Toddy
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re: Does the President need a kick arse performance?


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As an Obama supporter, I can say he sucked last debate



True. I just keep telling myself that he did this on purpose.






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JohnnyT
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re: Does the President need a kick arse performance?


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Obama will win comfortably.

Romney had to lie and change his stance on everything to get approval.

Obama will destroy him in the next debate.
This is the predetermined mantra that will issue from the left regardless of what happens during the debate: Obama clearly won the debate; Romney lied, etc.






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