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UGATiger26
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The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13

The South Carolina game will finally give us the answer to what we have debated for year after year. Miles' and his staff's offensive aptitude.

Regardless of your stance on Miles, positive or negative, there is no escaping the following truth.

Now we can all agree that Mettenberger is not having the greatest start and that the timing and and rhythm and his receivers is just not there. Likewise, our O-line has been weakened by injury after injury.

Also, USCe is bringing into TS a defense that is more ferocious than Florida's. Clowney and co. are scary good and were living in UGA's backfield last night.

So what will the offense look like?

This isn't opinion. This isn't conjecture. This is friggin x's and o's 101.

You don't run straight at them. Miles' bread-and-butter ground-and-pound will not work. They need to utilize misdirection, quick-hitting passes, screens, etc. to use Clowney and the rest of the USC defense's aggressiveness against them. You have to slow them down by tossing quick passes over their heads. This also will help Mettenberger achieve a rhythm with his WR's and TE's early on.

Long story short, based on LSU's injuries, passing game, and the opponent they are facing, if this coaching staff knows anything about adjusting and running an offense adequately, LSU's offense will look different than it normally does.

Now whether they win or lose, I don't really care at this point.

I will just be waiting to see if they bother even fricking trying.
This post was edited on 10/7 at 5:36 pm



roscoe mike
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
Well said. And I think we know the answer already.


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PG
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
Miles ran bread and butter ground and pound right at AL on 1/9/12. We were getting out a-- whipped and he ran like 20 times up the gut in the 2nd half of that game.
Any coach ignorant enough to think the opponent would not change their game plan for the 2nd game deserves what he got. Miles looked like a lost idiot in that game and he has the same look so far this season.
Expecting a light bulb to go off at midseason is beyond optimistic. Maybe but highly improbable based on his trends.


Papa Tigah
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
Alot of thought went into that.


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BOSCEAUX
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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I will just be waiting to see if they bother even fricking trying.


Exactly. It's like they find the other teams strength on defense and attack it. Derp style.


TigerEast
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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if this coaching staff knows anything about adjusting and running an offense adequately, LSU's offense will look different than it normally does.


This is where the fail will occur for LSU. We will see the same offense we have witnessed all season. If they knew how to adjust, why didn't they adjust against Towson, Auburn, Florida, or MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL 1/9?


ItNeverRains
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
OBC and company will put up 20 somehow, someway.

I don't see us scoring 21


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jeffturnright
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
when youre losing 21-0 with 730 left and wont even try a new qb and persist to run up the middle you're never going to change.


RogerTheShrubber
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
I said after the Auburn game that the UF matchup would show us what kind of offense we have.

I am pretty convinced already. Just hoping for a miracle and se if it can change, or they play well above their abilities vs USC and Alabama.


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UGATiger26
Georgia Fan
Athens, GA
Member since Dec 2009
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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This is where the fail will occur for LSU. We will see the same offense we have witnessed all season. If they knew how to adjust, why didn't they adjust against Towson, Auburn, Florida, or MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL 1/9?


But here is the difference. For those games, LSU was either at full strength in terms of injuries, playing a team they could easily overpower, or players just made mistakes (Like the fumbles in the Auburn game).

For this game, there is a clear-cut strategy that LSU needs to utilize offensively, which I outlined above. Now if we drop passes, fumble, play poorly, etc while using the strategy I described, then all of the Miles apologists can say "I told you so." But if the offense looks like the same up-the-gut "let's try and play keep away" for 4 quarters, then the Miles apologists will have zero recourse.


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Fat Bastard
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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when youre losing 21-0 with 730 left and wont even try a new qb and persist to run up the middle you're never going to change.


yep. that spoke volumes. Saban made miles quit.

you go no-huddle and throw every damn down in that situation. we ran the ball.

we quit coaching wise.


elprez00
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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Now whether they win or lose, I don't really care at this point.

I will just be waiting to see if they bother even fricking trying.

There's the $65 million question.


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WPBTiger
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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Miles ran bread and butter ground and pound right at AL on 1/9/12. We were getting out a-- whipped and he ran like 20 times up the gut in the 2nd half of that game.


This post was edited on 10/7 at 5:54 pm


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UGATiger26
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Member since Dec 2009
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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when youre losing 21-0 with 730 left and wont even try a new qb and persist to run up the middle you're never going to change.


yep. that spoke volumes. Saban made miles quit.

you go no-huddle and throw every damn down in that situation. we ran the ball.

we quit coaching wise.



But ya'll are still missing what I'm saying.

At least in the NCG, Miles and his staff could AT THE VERY LEAST say that the gameplan they came up with didn't work.

For this game, there exists only one strategy for success given the parameters of LSU's season and situation. If they don't utilize it, it is safe to say that LSU's offensive coaching staff is, quite literally, inept. And that it is NOT the player's faults.
This post was edited on 10/7 at 5:55 pm


PG
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
Think we have seen enough over the last 5 years to say that Miles and the offense coaching staff are pretty darn close to inept
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Tamer of beasts
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Maybe Les is insane


BOSCEAUX
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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Posted by Tamer of beasts Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Maybe Les is insane


Maybe?? He definitely is but not the good kind of insane when he was the gambling mad hatter. It really is strange how much he has changed.


LSU GrandDad
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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He definitely is but not the good kind of insane when he was the gambling mad hatter. It really is strange how much he has changed.


actually, miles gambles very little when he has no confidence it will work. think about it.


Powerman
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Member since Jan 2004
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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So what will the offense look like?

This isn't opinion. This isn't conjecture. This is friggin x's and o's 101.

You don't run straight at them. Miles' bread-and-butter ground-and-pound will not work. They need to utilize misdirection, quick-hitting passes, screens, etc. to use Clowney and the rest of the USC defense's aggressiveness against them. You have to slow them down by tossing quick passes over their heads. This also will help Mettenberger achieve a rhythm with his WR's and TE's early on.

Well put

Some changes need to be made if we are going to have a chance


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SpookeyTiger
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Member since Jan 2012
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re: The answer to the half-decade long question comes on 10/13
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actually, miles gambles very little when he has no confidence it will work. think about it.


If that is true then he is speaking volumes about where this team really is. Scary indeed.


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