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Rouge 
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| what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:01 pm)
Shitty husband that has a cheating wife that is murdered with no physical evidence makes him the murderer
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ThisIsSparta 
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:02 pm to Rouge)
You have AIDs?
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ArRazElle 
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:03 pm to Rouge)
What is the circumstantial evidence; only that he is a shitty husband or is there more?
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TexasTiger1185
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:05 pm to Rouge)
This is not news.
Police always suspect the spouse. If spouse is cheating... done for.
The American Justice system at work 
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JordonfortheJ
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:06 pm to Rouge)
sometimes circumstantial evidence is overwhelming
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Rouge
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:07 pm to ArRazElle)
He knew she was cheating
Hothead in past
Laid hands on her, but never beat her
She left in middle of night. He called cops 9 hours later
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J Murdah
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:07 pm to Rouge)
I've watcht quite a bid of Investigation Discovery and about 95% of the time its the husband. Just sayin.
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ArRazElle
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:16 pm to Rouge)
Doesn't sound like enough. 
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BeerMoney
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:59 pm to Rouge)
I was hoping you'd say you learned not to watch fricking dateline fricking N fricking B fricking C...................frick
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lsufanva
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:02 pm to ArRazElle)
Just from what was on the show it didn't seem to be enough to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. The boyfriend or his wife had just as much motive. Chances are that they got it right but not without reasonable doubt. Basically in trials like that one it comes down to who the jury likes more or believes not actual evidence. Sadly, this is what the justice system has come to in some cases. It's one big popularity contest between tthe lawyers and the defendent/plaintiff/victim. Not exactly what the founding fathers had in mind when they came up with this stuff.
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Muppet
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:04 pm to Rouge)
Thanks to a culture that elevates psychology to deific levels, we are more concerned with making a suspect resemble a crime than to prove he committed it.
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Winkface 
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:05 pm to Rouge)
Always
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Lester Earl
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:07 pm to Rouge)
stay classy rouge
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Muppet
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:13 pm to Muppet)
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...expert psychiatric opinion allows the offense, as defined by the law, to be doubled with a whole series of things that are not the offense itself but a series of forms of conduct, of ways of being that are of course, presented in the discourse of the psychiatric expert as the cause, origin, motivation, and starting point of the offense.
-Michael Foucault, 1975.
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ArRazElle
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:18 pm to lsufanva)
Yeah, I've had the misfortune of being on the jury in a couple of trials (not murder, but close) in which there was very little physical evidence, only circumstantial.
In these cases. it's very hard to keep folks on point in the jury room. In one trial, a couple of people were basing their decisions on which attorneys they liked the best.
This post was edited on 10/5 at 11:29 pm
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MedDawg 
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:29 pm to Rouge)
Didn't see this episode, but it seems like in many, if not most of these Dateline NBC-type murder shows, one of the key pieces of evidence is always,
"they didn't act like they should have after the murder".
Not that they acted guilty of anything. It's that they weren't falling-out crying for every moment for weeks after the tragedy, so they must have committed the murder. I've seen "not acting like a grieving person should" quoted over and over by the actual DA's and officers in interviews on these shows. That's a little scary to me.
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Muppet
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:32 pm to MedDawg)
"Abnormal" is a label with far-reaching consequences. Far too many consequences for a label that is rarely defined. The sentiment behind it can usually be expressed as something like, "Not what I can imagine myself doing".
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:32 pm to ArRazElle)
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Yeah, I've had the misfortune of being on the jury in a couple of trials (not murder, but close) in which there was very little physical evidence, only circumstantial.
In these cases. it's very hard to keep folks on point in the jury room. In one trial, a couple of people were basing their decisions on which attorneys they liked the best.
Nothing can cause you to lose faith in our CJ system more quickly than being on a jury.
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BTHog 
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:40 pm to MedDawg)
Why is that scary? Its based off good investigative technique.
Deal with enough of any crime and you get a sense of how certain parties should respond to certain actions. A spouse who either over or under reacts beyond a certain degree to their spouse being dead is usually involved.
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ArRazElle
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| re: what i just learned on dateline NBC (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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RogerTheShrubber
So true.
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