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TigerBait1127 
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| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:23 am to Bear Is Dead)
they went 0 and 4 during a 4 game stretch. not hard to understand
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sullivjh
Oral Roberts Fan
America
Member since Aug 2012
242 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:25 am to Bayou)
This board is is actually more irrational than the SEC rant and OT lounge. Remarkable.
This is not a board about football. This is about idol worship. Y'all have fun thinking the Saints will win the next 12 Superbowls in a row and score 6 million points over that time. You're right. This is the greatest team ever. End of story.
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Bear Is Dead 
LSU Fan
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
2128 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:25 am to Hoodoo Man)
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0-4 failure in 25% of the season is a huge hurdle to overcome but is one that has been accomplished by many teams.
Alright, well the saints are 0-4 to begin the season. Theyre not 4-4 or 7-7, they are 0-4. How many teams have overcome that hurdle?
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blueslover
New Orleans Saints Fan
soon to be south of zero
Member since Sep 2007
18291 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:27 am to Bear Is Dead)
I never stated to start a season. I noted 0-4 in any part of a season. I know the 0-4 start historical data. You cannot let historical data cloud what you actually see in a team though. This 0-4 team is a completely different one than the 0-4 Browns. How many times when you hear some arcane stat mentioned in a game situation is that contradicted in result? Remember the infamous "No team has ever won a playoff game that lost it's last 3 regular season games."? Should they have just shut it down cuz there was 0% historical data to backup such hope?
Again, I'm not predicting playoffs at this point by any means. At this early of a juncture though the possibility, though unlikely, is not out of the question. You could use the historical data that this team has won more regular season games than any other in the past 3 years.
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TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Jun 2005
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| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:31 am to sullivjh)
Thanks for your well crafted and thoughtful post
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Hoodoo Man
LSU Fan
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
8875 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:32 am to sullivjh)
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This board is is actually more irrational than the SEC rant and OT lounge. Remarkable.
This is not a board about football. This is about idol worship. Y'all have fun thinking the Saints will win the next 12 Superbowls in a row and score 6 million points over that time. You're right. This is the greatest team ever. End of story.
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JasonL79
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Jan 2010
2819 posts
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| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:37 am to sullivjh)
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This board is is actually more irrational than the SEC rant and OT lounge. Remarkable.
 So you think Brees is 100% responsible for the Saints 0-4 start? You don't think it has anything to do with the defense or the fact that we are on our 3rd string coach and never had our head coach for training camp? Or what about the dropped balls on offense? The way I see it is there is blame to go around everywhere.
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Bear Is Dead
LSU Fan
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
2128 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:37 am to blueslover)
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You cannot let historical data cloud what you actually see in a team though.
The only thing that is clouding what I see in the team is that they are winless at the start of October. I think they beat SD this week. If they do, theyre still 1-4. They would still need to go 9-2 for the rest of the season. Maybe 8-3. Teams that cant score a damn point against KC in the last 22 min of football, dont go 9-2 to finish a season.
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Bear Is Dead
LSU Fan
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
2128 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:38 am to JasonL79)
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The way I see it is there is blame to go around everywhere.
Everywhere includes Brees. Posters in this thread dont believe that.
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Hoodoo Man
LSU Fan
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
8875 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:41 am to Bear Is Dead)
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Everywhere includes Brees. Posters in this thread dont believe that.
Brees is partly responsible for our present record.
Happy?
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TigerJeff
LSU Fan
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
8802 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:42 am to Bayou)
Opinions are like a-holes, everybody's got one
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Bear Is Dead
LSU Fan
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
2128 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:43 am to Hoodoo Man)
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Happy?
Hell no Im not happy. I wish the Saints were 4-0, and I hope that they win every damn game for the rest of the season and playoffs.
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blueslover
New Orleans Saints Fan
soon to be south of zero
Member since Sep 2007
18291 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:50 am to Bear Is Dead)
if history limits what the team can accomplish then this franchise shouldn't have had a hope when Payton was hired 
There are the 1992 Chargers btw
They started 0-4, finished 11-5, won their division, and advanced one round in the playoffs
Brees has admitted his mistakes. They are clearly seen. He is in not the cause or primary reason for 0-4 tho. There's plenty of legitimate issues to address before pulling him into the fray.
This post was edited on 10/5 at 12:01 pm
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SEClint
New Orleans Saints Fan
Swamps
Member since Nov 2006
2645 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:54 am to blueslover)
ugh..that old familiar, "in the fight for a wild card position" feeling just hit me.
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TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
BR
Member since Jun 2005
23640 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 11:58 am to Bear Is Dead)
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Everywhere includes Brees. Posters in this thread dont believe that.
I don't think anyone has said Brees has played great in 3 of those 4 games. Saying Brees is to blame for our 0-4 start is still ridiculous though
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Teams that cant score a damn point against KC in the last 22 min of football, dont go 9-2 to finish a season.
I don't think anyone would argue that we won't make the playoffs if we play like that. Last week we showed a resemblance to the team that finished the 2011 season in dominating fashion. That is where the hope comes from. The talent is obviously there
This post was edited on 10/5 at 12:01 pm
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blueslover
New Orleans Saints Fan
soon to be south of zero
Member since Sep 2007
18291 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 12:07 pm to TigerBait1127)
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The talent is obviously there
or
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The only thing that is clouding what I see in the team is that they are winless at the start of October
is the question
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motorbreath
New Orleans Saints Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2004
3218 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:09 pm to Sanchito)
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Only team to make the playoffs after going 0-4 is the 92' Chargers.
I think if anyone can do it, the saints can. We are eons better than 99% of 0-4 teams.
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Hazelnut 
LA-Lafayette Fan
The Flatts
Member since May 2011
9603 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:21 pm to Bear Is Dead)
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Everywhere includes Brees. Posters in this thread dont believe that.
Yet you felt the need to single him out.
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Bear Is Dead
LSU Fan
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
2128 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 1:40 pm to Hazelnut)
God forbid...
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TigerBait2008
LSU Fan
Death Valley
Member since Jun 2008
10024 posts
| re: Adam Schein (NFL.com) says Brees to blame (Posted on 10/5/12 at 2:07 pm to Bear Is Dead)
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Prolly a balls in the mouth fan.
Awesome retort for someone witha blowup doll as an avatar Nice self pic..
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