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The ACT is actually easier now. I took it a year ago for shits and giggles. I got a 33. In high school I got a 27. I was better prepared in high school. Maybe I got smarter, but I doubt it.




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I'm not making this shite up.


Your antidotal evidence is astounding.






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Golfer
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As a current medical student I can tell you that most of my classmates and I are now strongly considering leaving this state for our residency training.


Have fun.






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TIGERSandFROGS
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surgery - average, Tulane and Ochsner are better
peds - average
ortho - is such a competitive residency that it is good pretty much everywhere
OMFS - you taking about ENT? kinda the same as ortho, it is such a competitive residency that it is pretty good wherever you go


The bull shite is getting deep in here.

You truly have not a fricking clue what you are talking about. Peds at CHNO is not average in this region, at all. Surgery is the best program in the state, and Tulane is not even close to the level of LSU and Ochsner. We have one of the best Surgical Critical Care/Trauma fellowships around, and our surgeons across all programs log cases like nobody's business compared to other residencies. We have one of the best trauma ortho rotations in the country, and our ortho residents come from far and wide because while ortho is overall a very competitive field compared to other residencies, LSU's program is competitive amongst its peers.

Why do you even try to act like you know what you are talking about? You don't even know what OMFS is, and that it without a doubt is very, very different than ENT. You spout crap thinking you can get away with it on a serious topic like this thinking nobody will call you out on it.

You're being called out. You don't know what you're talking about.






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TIGERSandFROGS
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I know residents at all 3 and if I need surgery, I know which ones I would go to. Ochsner's surgery volume is so much higher than LSU's.


I know the second sentence is completely untrue. I'm going to guess the first one is as well, bigshot.






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LuckySo-n-So
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As a current medical student I can tell you that most of my classmates and I are now strongly considering leaving this state for our residency training. For all of you that think this will only affect indigent populations and that a massive emigration of medical professionals will not limit your access to care, you are sorely mistaken.


The assault on education/medicine/research by this administration is sickening. Higher education will be a fleshless skeleton by the time King Bobby leaves office. I can foresee Pennington Biomedical closing its doors (they are already having difficulty attracting eminent scholars and researchers--hell, they can't even afford to run the fricking fountain out front anymore!), and LSU offering more welding and pipefitting classes in place of French, Calculus, and History.



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You're being called out. You don't know what you're talking about.








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VerlanderBEAST
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why shouldnt they die in a ditch? if a dumbass makes the choice to smoke, gets cancer, and cant pay for it well..... then seek charity or help from family. but why the frick should i have to pay for somebody else's bad choices?

btw my biological mother is a smoker and will prolly be in this situation and I feel the same way about her.

am I an a-hole, maybe, but dont ask me to pay for somebody else's bad choices.


Its pretty disgusting that in 2012 we still have people that think this way






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Golfer
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The assault on education/medicine/research by this administration is sickening. Higher education will be a fleshless skeleton by the time King Bobby leaves office. I can foresee Pennington Biomedical closing its doors (they are already having difficulty attracting eminent scholars and researchers), and LSU offerning more welding and pipefitting classes in place of French, Calculus, and History.


Well Pennington just recived a $20M grant...

And let's call a constitutional convention to allow Jindal to cut budgets across the board.






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Dumplin
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Have fun.

Same to you. That drive to the next state to find a competent doctor should be real fun.






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CaribbeanDemon
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That drive to the next state to find a competent doctor should be real fun




Its actually a terrible situation, and yet most of the rantards can't see how supporting this agenda while cost everyone in this state dearly.






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TIGERSandFROGS
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For everyone that doesn't understand what this is about and where it came from, read this excerpt from the press release. These are hard facts, without spin.


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This summer, the state's disaster-recovery Federal Medical Assistance Percentage (FMAP) rate was reduced by Congress from 71.92 percent to a projected 65.51 percent, the lowest federal match rate Louisiana has had in more than 25 years. For Fiscal Year 2013, the decrease equates to a total impact of approximately $859.2 million, which equates to approximately $287.1 million in state general funds (SGF). Of that, the LSU Health System is responsible for eliminating $126.9 million SGF from its budget, which amounts to a total reduction of $329.2 million when federal funds are considered.



To people in here that have acted like they know what they're talking about in regards to the finances of this, every last one of you is wrong. This has nothing to do with the governor's authority only allowing him to cut from education and healthcare, and the fact that the state has a budget surplus has nothing to do with a FUTURE deficit that will result from dramatically reduced FEDERAL compensation rates.

The bottom line is our charity system that has been run by LSU since Dr. Copping was the LSU President was only sustainable because of FMAP rates being where they were, and now they aren't there anymore thanks to federal cuts (I'm not exactly sure why they mentioned disaster status in the release, because there was a reduction to below baseline in addition to disaster status expiring).






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Jim Rockford
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Jindal has turned down billions of dollars that would have helped this state in innumerable ways (not just health care). I believe that he turned this money down JUST so he could go on the campaign trail and say he turned it down, consequences be damned. *But Jindal certainly whined and cried when the FEMA / Federal Govt. help didn't come fast enough after hurricanes.


This, goddammit.






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TIGERSandFROGS
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This, goddammit.



What did he turn down? $98MM in unemployment benefits that would've required a change in state law and saddled the state in the future with paying those unemployment benefits when the federal funds dried up?

How about the $300MM high-speed rail line from NOLA to BR that was expected to lose $20MM a year throughout it's lifetime, and ultimately end up costing $600MM over 30 years from Louisiana Taxpayers? Considering you're talking a billion dollars wasted, with only one-third of that coming from the fed, on something that would have had questionable economic impact on the region, I don't really understand the problem with passing on it. Joseph Cao, God love him, was enamored with the project because he saw it as $300MM of government handouts that we were passing on, but Jindal saw the writing on the wall with this and that runaway spending in Washington is resulting in massive cuts to federal funding to states and that adding $20MM per year and $600MM over its lifetime to the state budget wasn't a good idea.



Edit: Feel free to educate me if there is some other funding that I've overlooked from ARRA 2009 (American Reinvestment and Recovery Act) that Jindal turned down.



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la_birdman
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The place here should've been closed 20 years ago.


I heard on the local news tonight that they now have 10 beds for in patients.

10!

Why even be open?






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ccdrlsu
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To la bird

Keeping a minimum number of beds licensed is a requirement to maintaining funding for outpatient enterprises. LSU operates multiple clinics in the Baton Rouge area in addition to EKL. If EKL closes completely, the funding mechanism for the clinics is lost. LINK

So in addition to the resident/medical education implications I have mentioned in my previous post, follow up care post hospitalization is in jeopardy also. This is a big deal in the "privatization" of healthcare. I am for the OLOL-LSU collaboration, but a key part of the cooperative endeavor agreement was that LSU operate clinics so that patients admitted to the hospital had a clinic and physicians in the clinic that would care for the patient after discharge.

The article linked above quantifies the problem; 200,000 outpatient encounters annually.

This is a much bigger deal than is being appreciated by most on this board.

This thread really should be moved to the political board.






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Lacour
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VerlanderBeast


The fellow you ridicule speaks truth.

We've become a nation of no one having to live with the consequences of their decisions.

The utopia you want cannot exist.






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Lacour
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The ACT is actually easier now. I took it a year ago for shits and giggles. I got a 33. In high school I got a 27. I was better prepared in high school. Maybe I got smarter, but I doubt it.


The ACT isn't easier. There is just much more prep for it now than in the past.

Therefore kids score higher.






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TigerDog83
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We've become a nation of no one having to live with the consequences of their decisions.


It really is sad. The money doesn't exist to continue spending and living way beyond our means, yet the petulant children cry and scream when any cuts are made anywhere in the budget. People really are out of touch with how much money our governments have been overspending and the concept of personal responsibility is lost upon almost all of them.






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VerlanderBEAST
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NM


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GFunk
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This thread is rather humorous.

Especially considering the ardent supporter of the Jindal Administration is using economic forecasts of losses and using numbers over a half a billion dollars over 20 years in regards to the rail system this state passed on.

Jindal's own hand-picked economic forecasters predicted a break even budget that ended this year with close to a $200 million dollar budget surplus for FY 2011.

So you trust his numbers to give you triple that loss over 20 years, but he's shown you his hand-picked people are not trustworthy enough to even forecast over 12 months worth of the state's fiscal budgetary year without being off by more than 1/3 of what you're talking about would be lost over 20 years?

I'm being rather facetious of course, because Jindal's hand-picked economic forecasters were told (nevermind paid) to go doom and gloom with growth rates and budget forecasts so he could scare an already partisan Legislature enough to not give him any guff whatsoever about deep, far-reaching cuts to the budget.

Cuts that are actually only tangible in the sense that they're cuts from the previously-bloated-with-Katrina-federal-funds budgets.

Oh, and go look at his forecasts for FY 2012. They're again incredibly weak, and they'll refuse to revise them even though they were off-over a simple 12 month budgetary calendar year-by over $200,000,000.00 USD. That's a NINE FIGURE miscalculation.

But by all means...talk to us some more about how much money light-rail will lose over 20 years according to a guy who either can't hire the right people who can add properly or simply doesn't want the truth out regarding state budgetary concerns.

This talk about Jindal as some white knight had me fooled...I drank the Kool-Aid. But I've seen behind the curtain.

He's a charlatan like all the rest. He just resides on the right hand side of the Political Metronome.






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