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Jumbeauxlaya 
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 4:48 pm to Friend of OBUDan)
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Regardless, whether it's one or two is kind of pointless considering it's less than TV5 has made.
It's nearly the same in not even half as many games..
Honestly though the three of them are all pretty damn close in skill... Dempsey captures my feelings on which pairing we put out pretty well here.
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 5:02 pm to Jumbeauxlaya)
TV5 made at least 2 yesterday. Terrible pass to Kos and switched off on the goal. Not to mention he left us hanging bombarding forward multiple times. Add that to the PK versus Montpelier, the foul which lead to the Mata goal because he went bombing forward, and a couple of others and he's been our weakest link IMO.
Maybe I'm just getting fed up with TV5's adventurous side. With how we are set up and organized now, we a) don't need him to make those runs if we're tied or if we're up and b) really don't need Arteta having to drop back into the CB position while he jogs back.
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 6:01 pm to Friend of OBUDan)
What was Dempsey arguing there?
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 7:51 pm to Friend of OBUDan)
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Maybe I'm just getting fed up with TV5's adventurous side.
No I agree with everything you are saying. Verminator makes too many mistakes. Per and Kos would be our best pairing but Vermaelen is captain so we are stuck with him starting. He would have to have quite a few bad games in a row before Wenger would ever consider benching him.
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lesismeaurx 
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:18 pm to DB10_AFC)
Anyway Vermaelen could just play LB? I know Gibbs is having a decent year, but moving him there would give him the ability to venture forward without being such a liability in the middle.
Just a thought.
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 9:13 pm to lesismeaurx)
Gibbs has been one of our best players. TV5 isn't a good attacking defender from the wing.
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 10:22 pm to Friend of OBUDan)
If Gibbs gets hurt or needs rest I'd much rather Verm out wide than Santos though.
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 10:24 pm to ATLienTiger)
I don't know...width in our attack has been key. Depends on the opponent and our other personnel, I suppose.
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 10:53 pm to Friend of OBUDan)
Verm can play left, has for Arsenal, Belgium and Ajax. But we have a nice rotation with the three cbs. Verm just needs to stay back more.
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/4/12 at 11:07 pm to lesismeaurx)
Would mess up the 3 man rotations going on right now with the CBs and the WBs.
If Verm were a little less adventurous going forward I'd be happier, but I'm not prepared to say he's trash just because he goes all YaYa up the middle...
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:10 am to dgnx6)
I realize this. But Santos is a better attacking wing back and our fullbacks have been really important to our attack. TV5 was hit or miss at LB last year. Didn't offer much going forward and his positioning cost us a couple of times.
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DB10_AFC
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:54 am to Friend of OBUDan)
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TV5 was hit or miss at LB last year. Didn't offer much going forward and his positioning cost us a couple of times.
This. Vermaelen is a very average left back.
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:04 am to DB10_AFC)
Agreed. Gibbs has played very well so far. I see no reason at all to prefer TV5 over him.
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DB10_AFC
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:26 am to glassman)
Gibbs has been nothing short of outstanding this year. He is still learning and he will get caught out every once in a while but that is why Arteta is there for cover. In fact both of our young fullbacks have been in great form and even the England national team has taken notice.
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glassman
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:37 am to DB10_AFC)
Yep. An area of concern has become one of pretty decent strength so far. In fact I'd say Gibbs is a top 4 LB right now maybe higher. Only Baines and Cole are clearly better. Just my completely biased/homer opinion of course. 
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Jumbeauxlaya
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:39 am to glassman)
And considering Ashley Cole just called the FA a bunch of twats... Gibbs might be looking at some playing time soon
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glassman
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:44 am to Jumbeauxlaya)
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Ashley Cole just called the FA a bunch of twats
Shocking...
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Gibbs might be looking at some playing time soon
England needs new, less douchey blood on the squad. He would be good cover for Baines.
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Jumbeauxlaya
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:10 am to glassman)
This is the tweet by the way.
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DB10_AFC
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:27 am to glassman)
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nly Baines and Cole are clearly better. Just my completely biased/homer opinion of course.
Nah I completely agree with you. Gibbs has been one of the best left backs in the EPL this year.
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DB10_AFC
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| re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread (Posted on 10/5/12 at 10:40 am to DB10_AFC)
Stats from the Olympiakos game.
4 – Combined shots by Ramsey and Giroud in the last 14 minutes v. Olympiakos
6 – Total shots by all other Arsenal players in the previous 82 minutes
0 – Shots by Olympiakos in the last 22 minutes
7 – Touches by Giroud in the last 14 minutes v. Olympiakos
3 – Passes by Giroud
2 – Shots by Giroud
1 – Shot on goal by Giroud
1 – Key passes by Giroud
1 – Assists by Giroud
182 – Total number of attempted passes by Mikel Arteta in Champions League play 2012
9 - Total number of misplaced passes by Mikel Arteta
285 – Total number of attempted passes by Xavi in Champions League play 2012¹
15 – Total number of misplaced passes by Xavi
116 – Touches by Arteta v. Olympiakos 2012
103 – Passes attempted by Mikel Arteta v. Olympiakos
5 – Misplaced passes by Mikel Arteta
5 - Tackles per game by Arteta in Champions League play 2012 (second best of all players)
2.5 - Offsides per game by Gervinho in Champions League play 2012 (second worst behind Torres)
5 - Turnovers per game by The Ox in Champions League play 2012 (second worst behind Mbokani)
16 – Shots by Gervinho for Arsenal in all competitions 2012-2013
5 – Shots on goal by Gervinho
5 – Goals by Gervinho (stat via @Orbinho on twitter)
7 – Key Passes by Gervinho
1 – Assists by Gervinho
12 – Shots by Podolski for Arsenal in all competitions 2012-2013
6 – Shots on goal by Podolski
4 – Goals by Podolski
9 – Key Passes by Podolski
1 – Assists by Podolski
14 – Shots by Giroud for Arsenal in all competitions 2012-2013 (includes League Cup)
3 – Shots on goal by Giroud
1 – Goals by Giroud
5 – Key passes by Giroud (does not include League Cup)
2 – Assists by Giroud (does not include League Cup)
27 – Shots by Cazorla for Arsenal in all competitions 2012-2013
10 – Shots on goal by Cazorla
1 – Goals by Cazorla
27 – Key passes by Cazorla
2 – Assists by Cazorla
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