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Jahel
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| Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:35 pm)
don't want to BUMP Original
RETRO INCOME TAX
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1988,1991,1992,1994,1995,1998-2001,2005....are safe years
If you filed in any other year between 1980-2010, you owe more than you paid.
Your share of the national debt is equivalent to what tax rates would have needed to be adjusted to , to bring revenue=cost that given year.
if you were at the 17% bracket and another was at a 23% bracket, then a 10% increase to tax rates that year would bring you up to a 18.7% and the other to 25.3%...of your Income for that year.
A bit of research would have to be done on filings to see how much %tax rate increase would be necessary each individual year, but all is available in the IRS database and not much effort.
The idea behind this is that those responsible for the accrual of the debt should be held responsible for the debt.
Before you say it's wrong to back tax people, do you think it's right that they now get to push the burden down to others instead?
A lien is put onto your estate until the debt is repaid.
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pay the debt from the people who made the debt.....
please forward to Romney Campaign....TIA
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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:39 pm to Jahel)
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pay the debt from the people who made the debt.....
they're not paying it, and they're about to make it explode when they hit elderly age (medicare/SS)
i don't get what your point is?
This post was edited on 10/4 at 2:40 pm
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Jahel
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:40 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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i don't get what your point it?
attach a lien to their estate...."retro death tax"
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Fun Bunch 
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:40 pm to SlowFlowPro)
He thinks that we should greatly increase the estate tax so that "the ones that created the debt are paying it off."
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constant cough
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:40 pm to Jahel)
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i don't get what your point is?
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:41 pm to Jahel)
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attach a lien to their estate...."retro death tax"
so what do we calculate? how much excess they received in their life? the combined amount of all government programs?
you're going to have this lien on people who don't have property
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:49 pm to Jahel)
Wait. Are you talking about confiscating people's private property, even though they legally paid the taxes set forth by the government during a particular year(s)?
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Jahel
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:49 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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so what do we calculate?
what taxes would have had to been to have a balanced budget in the years with deficits
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you're going to have this lien on people who don't have property
if they lost everything, I guess.
If you were responsible for .0000000035% of taxes paid in 1987....then you are responsible for .0000000035% of the deficit that year.
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Jahel
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:52 pm to ZZTIGERS)
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Wait. Are you talking about confiscating people's private property, even though they legally paid the taxes set forth by the government during a particular year(s)?
read your statement....think about it
the same people who were okay with stealing money from the future....will be upset if the future says...pay what you spent?
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wickowick 
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:53 pm to Jahel)
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If you were responsible for .0000000035% of taxes paid in 1987....then you are responsible for .0000000035% of the deficit that year.
Sounds like Obama really put it to us...
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sparkinator
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:53 pm to Jahel)
What about the freeloaders and the bums that didn't pay any taxes during those years. Are they allowed to be freeloaders in your plan as well.
Your plan really isn't as fair as you make it out to be, huh?
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Waffle House 
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:55 pm to Jahel)
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1988,1991,1992,1994,1995,1998-2001,2005....are safe years
If you filed in any other year between 1980-2010, you owe more than you paid.
And if you had 0 income, and thus didn't file taxes, do you owe anything?
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Jahel
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:57 pm to Waffle House)
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And if you had 0 income, and thus didn't file taxes, do you owe anything?
nope. the tax system in place didn't have the correct %'s as to maintain a balanced budget....so those income earners at the time owe more in income tax.
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 2:58 pm to Jahel)
Great. And exactly what kind of precedent do you think this sets? You think people don't trust the government now.....
I always think how absurd when these "modern day civil war" threads are started, or an uprising against the government is coming, but implementation of something like this.....
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Bard 
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:01 pm to Jahel)
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RETRO INCOME TAX
Not only does that open an insanely dangerous door, the logisitics for figuring this up as well as for the bureacracy it would create would be a nightmare deserving of Dante's lowest circle of Hell.
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Jahel
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:03 pm to wickowick)
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Sounds like Obama really put it to us...
yes, and a shite storm in the streets when the GOV spends too much
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wickowick
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:10 pm to ZZTIGERS)
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I always think how absurd when these "modern day civil war" threads are started, or an uprising against the government is coming, but implementation of something like this.....
Since we are thinking out the box, why not just kill off all the free loaders. Sounds cheaper and saves money in the long run. Give them a year to be productive...
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Jahel
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:11 pm to Bard)
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Not only does that open an insanely dangerous door, the logisitics for figuring this up as well as for the bureacracy
how....it's a simple bill attached to your estate
accrued debt is accrued to you not your kids
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CITWTT
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:16 pm to Jahel)
You are actually dumber than your avatar leads one to believe is the case.
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dinosaur
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| re: Romney said he was appalled to "pass down debt to children" (Posted on 10/4/12 at 3:16 pm to Jahel)
There may be a constitutional issue with this idea.
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