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Catman88
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Romney just now: "Not the Real Barack Obama last night"

AND in the video release the night before. That should be his counter.






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slim thug
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Obama got punched in the nose last night. He's gotta come back wailing. We're gonna hear about the 47% and tax returns constantly. If you think obamas been playing class warfare, just wait. It's about to be full on character assassination. Rest of the campaign from Obama will be 30% policies, 70% destroying mitt Romney the man.





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Catman88
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I hope he goes that route. The American people will not stand for it. That would be a complete act of desperation.





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slim thug
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It doesn't matter what the American people think. It matters what voters in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Pennsylvania, etc. think.

Romney looked sharp. You can tell he's very familiar with the nuts and bolts of his policies. His background in high level business is pretty apparent. I thought Obama was shook and stuck to speaking in generalities. Obama won in 2008 on personal charisma and didn't have to discuss his record. That's completely changed now. I don't know if you can be inspiring while also being a policy wonk.



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Korkstand
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Well maybe it helps to mention that the best idea Obama's administration had was to inject 800 billion into a black hole to repair a few roads and keep unemployment below 8%.

Let's try someone who has other ideas for the economy rather than Keynesian theory.
I just get the feeling that Romney's plan for the economy is to gut the government, putting a few hundred thousand more people out of jobs, and then lower taxes on corporations so that they will invest and create more jobs even though there is no increased demand for goods and services because nobody can afford them. I'm not eyeballs deep into politics or economics, so can someone explain where I'm wrong?






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Choctaw
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NEWSFLASH: there is no real Mitt Romney


sure there is....he's the one that owned your leader last night.






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Catman88
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Is Louisiana failing right now for doing pretty much just that? Or do we have a surplus right now with some of the fastest growing sectors in the country?





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CptBengal
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Romney's plan for the economy is to gut the government,


government spending is running TRILLION dollar deficits.

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putting a few hundred thousand more people out of jobs, and then lower taxes on corporations so that they will invest and create more jobs


isnt creating private sector jobs a good thing? Those people then pay taxes to the government.

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no increased demand for goods and services because nobody can afford them.


if more people are working, more people can buy things.

you see, instead of using food stamps, they can use PAYCHECKS.

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so can someone explain where I'm wrong?



there ya go champ.






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Jwho77
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Obama won in 2008 on personal charisma and didn't have to discuss his record. That's completely changed now. I don't know if you can be inspiring while also being a policy wonk.


Exactly...Obama cannot speak rah rah empty generalities now to the undecided voter because he has a record. If he runs on his record, he will lose.






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Kcrad
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NEWSFLASH: there is no real Mitt Romney


bullshite, I saw him last night.






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Kcrad
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sure there is....he's the one that owned your leader last night.


...beat me to the punch






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Tigerstudent08
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I just get the feeling that Romney's plan for the economy is to gut the government

Please for the love of god let this happen!






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Korkstand
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isnt creating private sector jobs a good thing? Those people then pay taxes to the government.
Of course it's a good thing, but you missed the part where I facetiously said investments will be made and jobs will be created even though there is no increased demand. Why will jobs be created if there is nobody to buy the increased output? It seems to me to be a chicken/egg problem, but you seem to have it all figured out. Can you help me understand?






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ljhog
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Unfortunately for Obama it WAS the REAL Barak last night.





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LSUAlum2001
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I'm just happy that "the real Obama" showed up for the whole country to see.



This. It's easy to run when all you have to say is "HOPE AND CHANGE" and "BUSH 2.0", but extremely tough when you have your own shitty record to defend.







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CptBengal
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investments will be made and jobs will be created even though there is no increased demand.


increasing jobs, gives people money, which allows them to spend.

Why is this concept hard for you to understand? things like business expansion, R&D, etc.

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Why will jobs be created if there is nobody to buy the increased output?


Ok, Business A wants to expand by increasing their R&D, or becoming more efficient. So they want to hire more workers. Those workers then get paychecks which they then use to buy things.

People arent spending money now because they HAVE NONE. FOODSTAMPS ARE NOT A STIMULANT.

You think businesses dont want to make money?







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UGATiger26
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Of course it's a good thing, but you missed the part where I facetiously said investments will be made and jobs will be created even though there is no increased demand. Why will jobs be created if there is nobody to buy the increased output? It seems to me to be a chicken/egg problem, but you seem to have it all figured out. Can you help me understand?


Here is the deal behind what CptBengal is saying. Right now, businesses (especially small businesses) are stifled because they are unsure about taxes, regulations, etc. I know a few small business owners myself. They are, quite literally, scared about what the Obama administration might do next.

Regulations cost businesses money to comply with them. I'm not saying all regulations are bad, but that is just a fact. The Obama administration has had no qualms about making additional regulations with seemingly little forethought or reasoning behind them besides making themselves feel better about saving the environment or whatever.

This is what free trade guys like Milton Friedman mean when they say they want government to get the hell out of the way and let the free market go to work. Let the people decide what is best for themselves and others based upon the laws of freedom, demand, and choice. Yes, the government needs to watch over the economy and create an even playing ground. But it does not need to create arbitrary and expensive laws and regulations.





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Korkstand
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increasing jobs, gives people money, which allows them to spend.

Why is this concept hard for you to understand?
That concept is simple, and I have no problem understanding it. What I am trying to understand is why would a company, when given extra cash, just start hiring employees and expanding their business? If there were customers already out there willing and able to buy goods and services, wouldn't these companies already be hiring and expanding regardless of tax rates?
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Ok, Business A wants to expand by increasing their R&D, or becoming more efficient. So they want to hire more workers.
Typically, more efficient = fewer employees.
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Those workers then get paychecks which they then use to buy things.

People arent spending money now because they HAVE NONE.
I feel like you're assuming every business will have a pact with one another to go ahead and divvy up their newfound cash amongst the new hires with the assumption that they will all benefit and the new hires will pay for themselves. I need you to explain to me the incentive for Business A to take the initiative and hire people they currently have no use for, so that those employees will have money to spend and spread around to Businesses B through Z. What happens when most of those companies take the extra cash and send it overseas where it will likely make more money?
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You think businesses dont want to make money?
Of course they do, which is why I don't think they will hire unnecessary employees without having customers first.
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FOODSTAMPS ARE NOT A STIMULANT.
Agreed.






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19thHole
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"Not the Real Mitt Romney last night"


Translation: "Not the Mitt Romney I have been trying to portray to you through attack ads and nonsensical speeches for months"






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CptBengal
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What I am trying to understand is why would a company, when given extra cash, just start hiring employees and expanding their business?


because they make more money. It's not a difficult concept.

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If there were customers already out there willing and able to buy goods and services, wouldn't these companies already be hiring and expanding regardless of tax rates?


customers arent out there because people dont have jobs. people dont have jobs because there is a large number of businesses afraid of the increasing tax rates and regulation from Obama.

For example, his claim to cripple the coal industry isnt going to help ANYONE.

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Typically, more efficient = fewer employees.


Not necessarily, more efficient means more automation. More automation means secondary industries that make the automation hire more people. Then you have the maintenance people, the R&D, etc.

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I need you to explain to me the incentive for Business A to take the initiative and hire people they currently have no use for,


So you think demand is low because people dont want to buy things?

or is demand low because people dont have money, because they don't have jobs....

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Of course they do, which is why I don't think they will hire unnecessary employees without having customers first.


Expanding their business helps them make money. the only way to expand your business is to reinvest in your business.

That isn;t happening under Obama, sorry.






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