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12:32:23 but it couldn't have been Mitt Romney because the real Mitt Romney has been running around for the last year talking about a fivbe trillion dollar tax cut for hte wealthy and this Mitt Romney said he didn' tknow anything about that

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This is very true.

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I'm pretty sure the Solyndra deal was a Bush thing.

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Besides that, Solyndra received only a small fraction of the money

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I guess I don't understand the point. Should all energy investments go to teachers instead?

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I am 1000000% certain you are factually incorrect. The Bush administration refused, multiple times, to give Solyndra taxpayer money

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Everything I've found

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The DOE loan program that funded Solyndra was actually started by President Bush in 2005. It was intended to provide government support for "innovative technologies."

But the Bush administration never approved Solyndra's loan, saying the application needed more work.

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Link?

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But the facts don’t justify this claim. The bottom line remains that the Bush Administration did not approve the Solyndra loan guarantee. And just before they headed out of town, Bush officials ordered the project back to the drawing board.

Democrats argue the Energy Department first received the loan request in December 2006. By January 2009, it was still under consideration. That month, the department’s Loan Guarantee Credit Committee put the project on hold.

In a terse one-page memo, dated Jan. 9, 2009, the committee noted that the “apparent haste in recommending the project meant that certain LGPO (Loan Guarantee Program Office) credit procedures were not adhered to.”

It further stated that: “While the project appears to have merit, there are several areas where the information presented did not thoroughly support a finding that the project is ready to be approved at this time.” It then cited four areas of concern.

First was the lack of any “independent market study addressing long-term prospects for this specific company.” An independent credit assessment had “raised the issue of obsolescence in marketing this project.” Obsolescence? That’s never a good word to hear in a product marketing study.

Second, it noted that the committee had never seen a supposed sales agreement the company had for its product even though an unnamed “outside legal advisor” had. In other words, the committee only had vague assurances that there was even a buyer for the product.

Third, it noted, “There are questions regarding the nature and the strength of parent guarantee for completion of the project.” In other words, the committee wasn’t convinced the project would even be finished.

Fourth and finally, it vaguely noted “concern” over production start “scale-up” at a second Solyndra facility.

The memo concludes by saying “the number of issues unresolved makes a recommendation for approval premature at this time” and sent the project back to the LGPO for “further development of information.”

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most of those companies have actually gone bankrupt...sorry.

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Link? I'm not trying to be a smartass. I just can't find anything that supports this.

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Solar-cell manufacturer Solyndra became a household name when it collapsed, taking $627 million in American taxpayer dollars with it. It’s the poster company for the government picking winners and losers—or really, just losers—in the energy market. But there are 12 more “green energy” losers that have declared bankruptcy despite attempts to prop them up with taxpayer money—and the list is growing.

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But the Bush administration never approved Solyndra's loan, saying the application needed more work.

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Taxpayers aren't the only losers: Private investors lost almost twice what the government did -- nearly $1 billion.

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No smoking gun with Solyndra wrongdoing: Last week, Mitt Romney said an inspector general "looked at this investment and concluded that the administration had steered money to friends and family."
That appears to be incorrect, as no evidence of undue influence peddling by the White House has been uncovered in an official, independent report.

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It was the rapidly declining price of traditional, flat solar panels and silicon -- mostly from China -- that did the company in.

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This is all spot on as well. I said last night, less than 10 minutes into the debate, Romney has scrapped his plan because it was so bad and was losing him the election, and is going to try to go in another direction.

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Everything just points toward a deal being made under Bush if he had another year or two in office. That's all I was saying.

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Taxpayers aren't the only losers: Private investors lost almost twice what the government did -- nearly $1 billion.

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"looked at this investment and concluded that the administration had steered money to friends and family."
That appears to be incorrect, as no evidence of undue influence peddling by the White House has been uncovered in an official, independent report.

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It was the rapidly declining price of traditional, flat solar panels and silicon -- mostly from China -- that did the company in.

says to me that it was an investment that just went downhill. High risk, high reward. It happens.

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I really, really want to be convinced to vote for Romney

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"Not the Real Mitt Romney last night"

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then you're a liar...I just googled "Obama green energy bankrupt"

Here is ONE article of many:

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I really, really want to be convinced to vote for Romney

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No you don't.

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Would McCain or anyone else have done a better job these last 4 years, dealing with a global economic crisis, expensive wars, terrorism, etc.?

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The last 4 years of high unemployment, pathetic growth, etc..

ARE ON HIM. THEY ARE HIS RECORD.

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This is exactly what I was talking about. Do you think any one man can just say "let it be done" and reduce unemployment? The vast majority of the rise in unemployment happened before Obama took office, and has been declining since shortly after. I don't think he was the cause, nor was he the solution. He was the guy that was there during a global economic downturn. I don't know the answer, and the Romney circlejerk here doesn't do much to help me out.

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