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DEANintheYAY 
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:01 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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tying insurance to jobs is one of the biggest problems with the system
Yep. That is why we should get rid of insurance companies and go the single payer route. Obama is in bed with insurance companies and thus didn't go the route he should have.
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Decatur
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:03 pm to Zed)
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Give people a defined time period they are allowed to go without insurance before they forfeit their right to coverage with preexisting conditions. It would weed out the people who would simply wait until they got sick.
And frick people who are having trouble finding a job
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SOUTHFLATIGER
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:04 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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tying insurance to jobs is one of the biggest problems with the system
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Yet another example of the government causing a problem then trying to fix the problem they caused by more government.
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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:05 pm to DEANintheYAY)
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That is why we should get rid of insurance companies and go the single payer route
or just remove government from it and let people be responsible for their insurance and/or payments individually
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Zed 
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:06 pm to Decatur)
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And frick people who are having trouble finding a job
The allowed time period would be sufficient to allow for a job search, and eventual employment. How about 2 years?
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:06 pm to Decatur)
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And frick people who are having trouble finding a job
do you mean b/c they will lose employer-provided care, or won't be able to afford it (or both)?
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SOUTHFLATIGER
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:07 pm to DEANintheYAY)
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Yep. That is why we should get rid of insurance companies and go the single payer route. Obama is in bed with insurance companies and thus didn't go the route he should have.
Uh, how about not tying insurance to a job?
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TROLA
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:08 pm to DEANintheYAY)
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Yep. That is why we should get rid of insurance companies and go the single payer route.
Jobs..economy.. slashing a whole industry is ridiculous. The government can have a roll, they can help through collective taxing in place to subsidize those with pre-existing conditions. We as a country have to get over this idea that every single person is going to have the same level of care. Its not possible.
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Decatur
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:14 pm to Zed)
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How about 2 years?
Ok, how about then?
I appreciate your input but I really want to know what Romney thinks about it, more importantly what legislation Romney expects to sign given that Republicans have historically been opposed to easing the pre-existing condition burden.
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SOUTHFLATIGER
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:18 pm to Decatur)
Hope and Change. Worked 4 years ago.
Or maybe let's pass it to see what's in it!
This post was edited on 10/4 at 12:19 pm
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DEANintheYAY
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:21 pm to TROLA)
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We as a country have to get over this idea that every single person is going to have the same level of care. Its not possible.
I agree with that. BUT, I think that all people should have some basic level of coverage that includes preventative care. Preventative care is where you can really see some savings. That and cutting our ever growing obesity rate.
And yes, I know people have a "right" to be fat, but they also should pay more for insurance then.
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Zed
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:21 pm to Decatur)
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Ok, how about then?
You go more than 2 years uninsured before diagnosis of a condition, and coverage of that condition isn't guaranteed.quote:
I appreciate your input but I really want to know what Romney thinks about it, more importantly what legislation Romney expects to sign given that Republicans have historically been opposed to easing the pre-existing condition burden.
He would have a difficult time containing the increased costs of providing coverage for preexisting conditions. I don't think there's anything wrong with being skeptical about his ability to do so.
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Decatur
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:22 pm to Zed)
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He would have a difficult time containing the increased costs of providing coverage for preexisting conditions.
Which is exactly why Repubicans invented the individual mandate
Why do they all run from it now?
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DEANintheYAY
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:23 pm to Decatur)
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Which is exactly why Repubicans invented the individual mandate
Why do they all run from it now?
Shhhh, you can't talk about that.... 
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:24 pm to Decatur)
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Ok, how about then?
i think 2 years is about 4x the time needed to find insurance WITHOUT a PEC penalty
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Republicans have historically been opposed to easing the pre-existing condition burden.
well i just don't see why government should have a role in this. all it's doing is shifting costs to everyone else, raising the cost of health care
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SOUTHFLATIGER
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:24 pm to Decatur)
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Why do they all run from it now?
Because it's not in the purview of the federal government. Why can't you guys accept that?
This post was edited on 10/4 at 12:25 pm
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Decatur
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:25 pm to DEANintheYAY)
Way back in 2009...Mitt Romney had basically the same healthcare plan that we now see in the Affordable Care Act
What the frick happened?
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:25 pm to Decatur)
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Which is exactly why Repubicans invented the individual mandate
on a federal level? when? 30 years ago?
and this is a problem with republicans. they're just as OK with using government to frick up a system as DEMS, depending on the political winds
i don't see why there is an issue with leaving it up to states. Romney should have nailed that point further last night
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:26 pm to Decatur)
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Way back in 2009...Mitt Romney had basically the same healthcare plan that we now see in the Affordable Care Act
via state government, not federal
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What the frick happened?
nothing
when has romney ever been opposed to states doing what he led in Mass?
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Ryne Sandberg 
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| re: What is Romney's plan for pre-existing conditions? (Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:27 pm to Decatur)
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Way back in 2009...Mitt Romney had basically the same healthcare plan that we now see in the Affordable Care Act
What the frick happened?
wow, you are so misinformed
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