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brbengalgal
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It doesn't take much to set Gyp off--he's a nutcase. I'd like to see his backstory and what makes him tick.





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JohnnyBgood
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How much do y'all think Doyle was shitting himself when Harrow had the gun pointed at his head?





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brbengalgal
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I'm sure Nucky was pretty nervous as well





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JBeam
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Just finished watching last nights episode.

The scene between Nucky & Harrow was pure gold if you ask me.

Also, Margaret has got to go.....






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ashy larry
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anyone else love Mickey Doyle?


I've liked him since the scene with Van Alden. Last night when Harrow had the gun to his head, I realized how much I liked Doyle when I was hoping Harrow wouldn't kill him.






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JBeam
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really? you want Mickey to stay alive?


Also, can anyone explain the situation with the italian boy and the whole heroin situation they are running.






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supatigah
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Also, can anyone explain the situation with the italian boy and the whole heroin situation they are running.



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On January 17, 1919, the Eighteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified, and Prohibition lasted until the amendment was repealed in 1933. The Amendment prohibited the manufacture, sale, and transportation of alcoholic beverages. As there was still a substantial demand for alcohol, this provided criminals with an added source of income.

By 1921, Luciano had met many future Mafia leaders, including Vito Genovese and Frank Costello, his longtime friend and future business partner through the Five Points Gang. Also in 1921, Brooklyn gang boss Joseph Masseria recruited Luciano as one of his gunmen.[11]

At some point in the early 1920s, Luciano left Masseria and started working for gambler Arnold "the Brain" Rothstein. Rothstein immediately saw the potential windfall from Prohibition and educated Luciano on running bootleg alcohol as a business[12] Luciano, Costello, and Genovese started their own bootlegging operation with financing from Rothstein.[12]

Rothstein served as a mentor for Luciano. In 1923, after ruining his reputation in the criminal community with a botched drug deal, Luciano went to Rothstein for advice. Rothstein told Luciano to buy 200 expensive seats to the Jack Dempsey–Luis Firpo boxing match in the Bronx and distribute them to top gangsters and politicians. Rothstein then took Luciano on a shopping trip to Wanamaker's Department Store in Manhattan to buy high end, classy clothes for the fight. The strategy worked, and Luciano's reputation was saved.[13]

By 1925, Luciano was grossing over $12 million a year; however, he was netting only about $4 million each year due to the costs of bribing politicians and police. Luciano and his partners ran the largest bootlegging operation in New York, one that also extended into Philadelphia. He imported scotch whiskey from Scotland, rum from the Caribbean, and whiskey from Canada. Luciano was also involved in illegal gambling.

On November 2, 1928, a bookie shot and killed Rothstein over a gambling debt.[14] With Rothstein's death, Luciano quickly pledged fealty again to Masseria.
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Rise to power

Luciano soon become a top aide to Brooklyn crime boss Giuseppe Masseria. In contrast to Arnold Rothstein, Masseria was an uneducated man with poor manners and limited management skills. By the late 1920s, Masseria's main rival was boss Salvatore Maranzano, who had come from Sicily to run the Castellammarese clan activities. This rivalry eventually escalated into the Castellammarese War, which raged from 1928 to 1931 and resulted in 60 mobster deaths.

Masseria and Maranzano were so-called "Mustache Petes", older, traditional mafia bosses who had started their criminal careers in Italy. They believed in upholding the Old World Mafia principles of "honor", "tradition", "respect", and "dignity". The Mustache Petes were not willing to work with anyone who was not Italian or Italian-American, and were even skeptical of working with anyone who was not Sicilian or Sicilian-American. Some of them refused to work with anyone who did not have roots in the same village as they did. Luciano, in contrast, was willing to work with Jewish and Irish gangsters if there was money to be made. For this reason, he was shocked to hear traditional Sicilian mafiosi lecture him about his dealings with close friend Frank Costello, whom they called "the dirty Calabrian".[15]

Luciano soon began cultivating ties with other younger mobsters who had begun their criminal careers in the United States. Known as the Young Turks, they chafed at their bosses' conservatism. Luciano wanted to use lessons he learned from Rothstein to turn their gang activities into criminal empires.[16] As the war progressed, this group came to include future mob leaders such as Frank Costello, Vito Genovese, Albert Anastasia, Joe Adonis, Joe Bonanno, Carlo Gambino, Joe Profaci, Tommy Gagliano, and Tommy Lucchese. The Young Turks believed that their bosses' greed and conservatism were keeping them poor while the Irish and Jewish gangs got rich. Luciano's vision was to form a national crime syndicate in which the Italian, Jewish, and Irish gangs could pool their resources and turn organized crime into a lucrative business for all.[17]

In October 1929, Luciano was forced into a limousine at gun point by three men, beaten and stabbed, and dumped on a beach on Staten Island. He somehow survived the ordeal but was forever marked with a scar and droopy eye. The identity of his abductors was never established. When picked up by the police after the beating, Luciano said that he had no idea who did it. However, in 1953, Luciano told an interviewer that it was the police who kidnapped and beat him.[18] Another story was that Maranzano ordered the attack.[19] Other stories cited a jealous boyfriend and robbers. The most important consequence of this episode was the press coverage it engendered, introducing Luciano to the New York public.

[edit]Power play
In early 1931, Luciano moved to eliminate Masseria. The war had been going badly for Masseria, and Luciano saw an opportunity to switch allegiance. In a secret deal with Maranzano, Luciano agreed to engineer Masseria's death in return for receiving Masseria's rackets and becoming Maranzano's second-in-command.[20]
On April 15, 1931, Luciano invited Masseria and two other associates to have lunch in a Coney Island restaurant. After finishing their lunch, the mobsters decided to play cards. At that point, Luciano stepped out to go to the washroom. Four gunmen – Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel, Vito Genovese, Albert Anastasia, and Joe Adonis – then walked into the dining room and shot and killed Masseria and his two men. Luciano then took over Masseria's gang and became Maranzano's lieutenant.[20]


the guys shooting at the "kid" (aka Bugsy Siegel) were Masseria's men. Siegel was delivering heroin in his coat and hat for Meyer Lansky and Luciano.

This season is 1923, based on their clothes I would say right now in the show is the end of winter. The Dempsey/Firpo fight was in Sept 1923 so Luciano losing face in a botched drug deal and then buying 200 suits for gangsters and politicians is coming up later in the season






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parrotdr
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20s cover of clapton or did he cover it?


Hey Supa, good rehash of history, but I'd hold back a bit considering the details in here that most likely foreshadow the plot. I alluded to that in a discussion of the first episode to folks not wanting spoilers--they might not want to read too much actual history.






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auyushu
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I'm sure Nucky was pretty nervous as well


Yeah, I loved how Nucky is asking if he and his family are safe after he leaves. Like he knows full well Harrow is badass enough to kill him and Margaret no matter what he does to try and stop him.






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supatigah
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Hey Supa, good rehash of history, but I'd hold back a bit considering the details in here that most likely foreshadow the plot.


maybe so but the heroin plot is pretty minor

FYI here is a good summary of who is real and who is not:
LINK /

Gyp Rosetti is not a real person either

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Cajun Revolution
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Couple observations:

1. Jimmy flashback. The first thing you hear is "Welcome back. We've missed you. Good to see you." Thought that was pretty poignant since his exit last season. Kind of a tip of the hat in a minor way.

2. Margaret needs to be dealt with but she can't be. She's a Nucky minor plot device. Also, she gives Nucky a social presence in the community even though she is back handed and self serving.

3. Harrow is a principle killer. When referring to Jimmy he said "Jimmy was a soldier. And he lost." He's a complicated and flawed character but he's loyal. Joining with Nucky is probably not something he's consider. His main objective seems to remain loyal to the Darmody (sp) household.

4. Eli is due for a resurgence. Maybe not in his former role but he will play a major part by seasons end. For better or worse for Nucky.






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auyushu
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3. Harrow is a principle killer. When referring to Jimmy he said "Jimmy was a soldier. And he lost." He's a complicated and flawed character but he's loyal. Joining with Nucky is probably not something he's consider. His main objective seems to remain loyal to the Darmody (sp) household.

4. Eli is due for a resurgence. Maybe not in his former role but he will play a major part by seasons end. For better or worse for Nucky.


I don't think Harrow is loyal to anyone but Angela's memory and Jimmie's kid at this point. I could easily see him killing off Gillian if he thought it was best for the kid. I could also see Nucky adopting the kid if that happened, with some weird coming full circle action and penance.

Agreed on Eli, wasn't he in a cop uniform in the previews for next week?






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efa
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I thought they killed off Jimmy because of bad blood on set. Doesn't look like that's the case.




Not true. That was just a rumor, the producers and creator of the show said that Jimmy being killed off had nothing to do with the actor and they always planned that and that they enjoyed working with Michael Pitt very much.






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prostyleoffensetime
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Agreed on Eli, wasn't he in a cop uniform in the previews for next week?


I saw that too. Also, there was a guy yelling stop that sounded like his voice, then there's blood dripping into the basement or bunker or whatever Nucky was in.






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parrotdr
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Agreed on Eli, wasn't he in a cop uniform in the previews for next week?


I saw that too. Also, there was a guy yelling stop that sounded like his voice, then there's blood dripping into the basement or bunker or whatever Nucky was in.


Exactly why I try NOT to watch previews. Still can't help myself though...






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Rittdog
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is michael shannon the most useless character ever?



Yep. Totally wasted character imo.






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prostyleoffensetime
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Yep. Totally wasted character imo.


Well not totally. His wife got naked, but otherwise yeah, he currently sucks. But there's got to be a good reason they're keeping that storyline going.






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diat150
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Well not totally. His wife got naked, but otherwise yeah, he currently sucks. But there's got to be a good reason they're keeping that storyline going.



van alden is about to wreck shite. dude is a caged beast about to escape. he has had some of the best scenes in the show. the scene where he fricked that waiter up was money.







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brbengalgal
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Yep. Totally wasted character imo.


Negative, he's about to unleash big time.






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tylercsbn9
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You can see it brewing in VA. I thought he was gonna snap and beat on his coworkers at the bar. He will join the dark side.





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