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bigwheel 
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/26/12 at 8:49 pm to TigerBait2008)
agree, cut the Mf
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NorthshoreTiger76
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:23 pm to SuperSoakher)
i blame the loss on this thread thanks supersoakher
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St Augustine 
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:27 pm to NorthshoreTiger76)
meh I started the same damn thread. Yes I'm irrationally fricking mad right now but I just don't trust that little shite. He looks nervous as hell and the more nervous he gets the more he pushes it left. Just because he had a magical year in 09 does not give him carte blanche to push everything left when it really matters.
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Breesus
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:29 pm to St Augustine)
He made the first one, got moved back and got lined up to kick the second, then had to get lined up a third time and kick at a third distance.
Thats a tough situation, and only his second miss this season. I wouldnt cut him.
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Fat Bastard
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:31 pm to St Augustine)
we can do better than hartley. enough is enough. this is pro with closer hashmarks than college for GOD's sake. no excuses.
This post was edited on 9/30 at 7:32 pm
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CptRusty
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:31 pm to ibleedprplngld)
The morons crying out for Hartley's head are either trolling or brainless. Possibly both. They certainly don't remember 2008 wth Gramatica and the games he cost us. Hartley is $$$$ most of the time. Does anyone have the statistics on NFL kickers kicking FG's over 45 yards? That is a long kick. It's doable, but if the guy misses it, he is by no means a "bad" kicker.
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St Augustine
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:32 pm to Breesus)
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He made the first one, got moved back and got lined up to kick the second, then had to get lined up a third time and kick at a third distance.
Thats a tough situation, and only his second miss this season. I wouldnt cut him.
fair enough 
But on a scale of 1-10 what would you rate your confidence in him in a make or break scenario?
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Vinny V
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:33 pm to SuperSoakher)
Give Danny Hrapman a call. New Orleans kid who made all of his preseason kicks with the Steelers, including some long 40 yarders. He was a Lou Groza award finalist. May not have kicked in big games yet, but would it hurt to give him a tryout and see how he does?
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carnuba
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:33 pm to Fat Bastard)
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we can do better than hartley
really?
with who?
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Fat Bastard
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:36 pm to carnuba)
DO YOU EVEN WATCH FOOTBALL????????????????????? DO YOU??????????????????????????????
and for those comparing Hartley to Grammatica and thinks that excuses hartley...the pro kicker.....
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CptRusty
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:42 pm to Fat Bastard)
found this: take it FWIW
a 48 yard FG puts us at 33. Success is about 55% from there.
Anyone that has something better for overall FG stats, please post it. I think this needs to be taken with a big grain of salt
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Breesus
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:44 pm to St Augustine)
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But on a scale of 1-10 what would you rate your confidence in him in a make or break scenario?
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Fat Bastard
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:47 pm to CptRusty)
I think what makes it 10x worse is the fact he has choked plenty in game winning/changing situations(tampa, Atlanta, GB, etc.) and we watch so many other NFL kickers make those kicks almost blindfolded. although in his defense he made some big kicks in the SB and NFCCG(does not excuse misses though by any means)...but he was bad in 2010.which is why he was replaced. That % seems skewed though.
This post was edited on 9/30 at 7:55 pm
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LSU Tammany Tiger
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 8:11 pm to Fat Bastard)
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But on a scale of 1-10 what would you rate your confidence in him in a make or break scenario?
as much as i have in Kromer 
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MikeD
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 8:17 pm to LSU Tammany Tiger)
I don't really trust him either. Watching other kickers today I feel like Hartley is solidly in the bottom third.
I mean, St. Louis drafted a kid who hit 58, 60 and two others.
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Vinny V
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 8:20 pm to MikeD)
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saintsfan22
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 8:37 pm to CptRusty)
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a 48 yard FG puts us at 33. Success is about 55% from there.
Anyone that has something better for overall FG stats, please post it. I think this needs to be taken with a big grain of salt
Kicks from 50+ were converted at a higher rate than 55% last season so I highly doubt that chart's right.
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SBC
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 8:39 pm to bigwheel)
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Since his 09 season, he's done absolutely nothing for the Saints except miss crucial field goals, get suspended, miss an entire season due to injury, and have a 40 year old kicker completely out play him.
I agree he is not consistent, but he did kick us to our one and only superbowl.
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Vinny V
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 8:41 pm to SBC)
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I agree he is not consistent, but he did kick us to our one and only superbowl.
Using that logic Tracy Porter and Reggie Bush would still be on this team. Although I really wish Tracy Porter still was on this team.
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Fat Bastard
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| re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley (Posted on 9/30/12 at 8:43 pm to saintsfan22)
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Kicks from 50+ were converted at a higher rate than 55% last season so I highly doubt that chart's right.
exactly what i was thinking also. need to find a link somewhere.
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