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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:25 pm to Honkus)
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If you're gonna count assists you should be penalized for TOs
the 2 have nothing to do with each other 
TOs basically act as a form of socialism and reward passive play
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MrWiseGuy 
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:27 pm to Honkus)
Thanks Honk and Thomas 
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MrPappagiorgio 
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:37 pm to MrWiseGuy)
Wiseguy works for me...
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:38 pm to MrWiseGuy)
i'll accept you if you vote to eliminate TOs
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lsu31always 
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:39 pm to barry)
Hmmmm.
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TthomasJR 
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 5:30 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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WESTBROOK OTB
Is he still OTB, and how much?
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Honkus
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:08 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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the 2 have nothing to do with each other
They're not completely unrelated. assist/turnover ratio is still a recognized statistic, no?
Anyways I like rule changes that make the league more competitive, not less.
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fratmonster 
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:17 pm to Honkus)
I always hated turnovers, so id vote against.
Slow, check them players i listed. I'd do a two for one or one for one to get Westbrook. Westbrook is my dawg
I guess ill need to change this Holiday season shite i have for my sig
This post was edited on 9/20 at 6:18 pm
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MrPappagiorgio
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:30 pm to fratmonster)
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Slow, check them players i listed. I'd do a two for one or one for one to get Westbrook. Westbrook is my dawg
Plus one
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:37 pm to Honkus)
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assist/turnover ratio is still a recognized statistic, no?
yeah but it's really only applicable to one position (point guard) and with the neo/o-guard, it's losing importance
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I like rule changes that make the league more competitive, not less.
that's what i'm doing
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:38 pm to TthomasJR)
i'd like to upgrade him. i have 5 keepers. 2:1
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TthomasJR
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:43 pm to SlowFlowPro)
You can have Amare
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:43 pm to TthomasJR)
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Honkus
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:45 pm to SlowFlowPro)
i just like TOs bc it balances things out for guards. if we ditch TOs it'll make guards too valuable & decrease the importance of Fs/Cs. people will be loading up on guards for their flex. i dont wanna play in a league like that.
& i dont see how eliminating a category makes things more competitive. 1 less category to worry about while drafting/trading/making lineup decisions doesn't mean more competitive to me.
ETA: btw it doesnt reward complacency, it penalizes frick ups, which is how it should be.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:49 pm to Honkus)
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it'll make guards too valuable & decrease the importance of Fs/Cs.
this isn't fantasy football
this is stat-based competition, not point-based competition. it's impossible for 1 position to become "too valuable"
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people will be loading up on guards for their flex.
and they'll get killed in FG%, blocks, and rebounds
big men turn it over more than guards anyway
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:50 pm to Honkus)
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btw it doesnt reward complacency, it penalizes frick ups, which is how it should be.
TOs are a product of aggression, typically. that's a good thing
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Honkus
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:02 pm to SlowFlowPro)
i dont think giving the ball to the other team is a good thing.
i think its a pretty important stat & to throw it out be some people "just don't like it" would be a bitch-move.
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fratmonster
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:05 pm to Honkus)
I just don't think it makes sense in fantasy. Turnovers punish a fantasy team for having alot of playmakers who play with the ball in there hands. Why?
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:06 pm to Honkus)
we need to figure out a way to make FT% hold more weight to offset the "jumpshooter" effect
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MrPappagiorgio
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| re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT** (Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:06 pm to SlowFlowPro)
You can have DeMarcus 
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