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Anyone else think we're about to enter a cinematic dark age?



This shooting makes me sick to my stomach, and something tells me once the dust settles, the psychopath behind this is not going to be made the main villain in this by rights groups and spiral this completely out of control. The main villain will be Hollywood, and particullarly creative directors like Christopher Nolan, Quentin Tarantino, and Martin Scorcese are going to be taking most of the blunt of this shit, no different than video games supposedly inspiring mass murders and Marilyn Manson inspiring the Columbine shooters. I know that with these psychopaths it was probably merely a matter of time before they exploded and killed many despite their interests in these artists works, but let's just ignore that for now.

More or less, I think the creative film making process will die with "The Dark Knight Rises". Pretty much these producers will now approach their entire audience as potential psychopaths who are one scene away from mowing down a theatre, not normal people who will in no way do the violence shown on screen. I expect violence to decrease as a whole over the next 10 years.

You can rest assured that they won't dare make a truly dark and great Batman film for the next say 20-30 years due to the fact that the films' darkness inspired this massacre. It wouldn't shock me "Django Unchained" were the first victim of this and had its violence forcibly edited by the studio. Also wouldn't shock me if they sent "Catching Fire" back for a rewrite so there would be less on-screen murder. Don't get me wrong, action and violence against non-human forces will be encouraged like Avatar, Transformers, Pirates of the Carribean, and Alice in Wonderland. They play it safe and the masses will go to it. The films are incredibly formulaic and don't push the envelope. These films if you'll notice are also run from a more production stand point to make as much money as humanly possible, instead of pushing it in a storytelling perspective.

Pretty much I'm saying is that writers and directors visions that are controversial, violent, foul, or with a morally grey message (with any combination of the previous 3) will be discouraged by producers and the studios, and will from this point on adopt a more James Cameron or Michael Bay approach. Over-the-top villains, a forced message, and violence kept to merely cartoonish and completely nonbelievable standards. The producers will now be meddling to the extreme with great directors visions, and thus we'll now be victims to dozens upon dozens of Spiderman 3s.

This punk, who I hope has the thrust of a thousand dicks destroy his arse in prison, has destroyed lives and mutilated cinema. James Holmes will do to cinema what Jerry Sandusky has done to college football, only the backlash won't be against a single institution. It will in my opinion damage creative filmmaking even further and be run completely by producers who rarely step foot on the set or truly immerse themselves in the filmmaking process.







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We've been in one since 1977







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We've been in one since 1977


Not to the extent I'm talking about.






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Anyone else think we're about to enter a cinematic dark age? (Posted on 7/21/12 at 4:30 a.m.)


No I don't think that at all.

It's a possibility I guess, but it's been barely over 24 hours since the attack occurred, and that seems like a knee-jerk response right now. No offense






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Anyone else think we're about to enter a cinematic dark age?


No.

Mostly because the scapegoat as it stands is going to be gun control instead of movies, video games, and etc.

But I also think people have been there and done that with the music industry and maybe realize that limiting those industries or blaming them is not the answer. You also can't underestimate how desensitized people have become to these things since events like Columbine.

Now I will say we probably won't be seeing any violent movie theater scenes in movies anytime soon.






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Mostly because the scapegoat as it stands is going to be gun control instead of movies,


In a way it should. Guns are too accessible. Also how did this unemployed kid afford all those guns and explosives?

There is no coincidence why countries like Canada and the UK don't have all this gun violence. The second amendment has done more to hurt, rather than help the nation IMO.




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For the sake of not going all politard on the M/TV I'm just going to respectfully disagree.





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I do think its a valid concern OML but I agree with Belle. Gun control is going to be the goat on this one.

I think you are right about one thing though. I think it'll be awhile before we see Batman films like this on screen. WB will reboot of course but I wonder now if that reboot takes longer.






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Illegal ownership of guns has done more to hurt, rather than help the nation IMO.


FIFY.

Regardless of how this person got his guns.






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Regardless of how this person got his guns.


Legal guns become illegal ones. Everyone will say the shotgun is the best home defence weapon. So the handgun truly has zero use. I don't hate handguns, I have a couple. But one I bought in twenty minutes at a gun show. It is just too easy to get them, and the ammo for them. I guess that is "our right" but not every gun crime is with an "illegal" gun.

How many shootings in Canada? The UK? France? Japan? Obviously our gun culture and the ease at which we make gun sales has contributed to our high rates of shooting homicides.

Also, speaking of poli-talk, look at this heavily slanted piece on the shootings. Talk about tin-foil hat nut-jobs.

Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged






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It is easy to have a knee jerk reaction right after a traumatic event but to answer your question, If we enter a cinematic dark age, it will have zero to do with this shooting and will be pushed by the continuing expansion of the 'Michael Bay' effect.

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Mostly because the scapegoat as it stands is going to be gun control instead of movies,

In a way it should. Guns are too accessible.

Yes nothing like blaming others. Movies, video games and rap should all be blamed for societies ills.

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There is no coincidence why countries like Canada and the UK don't have all this gun violence. The third amendment has done more to hurt, rather than help the nation IMO.






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Legal guns become illegal ones.


Sorry but no. There will always be a huge black market for guns here whether they're legal or not.

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But one I bought in twenty minutes at a gun show.


Its really easy to buy bomb materials too. It's even easier to buy alcohol and drive a car and kill people.

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How many shootings in Canada? The UK? France? Japan? Obviously our gun culture and the ease at which we make gun sales has contributed to our high rates of shooting homicides.


Do crazy, evil people that abuse weapons contribute to homicides? Of course. It's the users fault and not the guns. Holmes would've found another way to kill these people if he couldn't get guns. It may have been even worse.

Those countries have different cultures, different beliefs, etc that contribute to their homicide rates as well. It's not all about the guns.

You think if gun laws were stricter, we'd be better off?

You should keep up with the news in Chicago. The have insane gun laws. Insane. Yet there's still crowds of people getting shot up fairly frequently out there. Illegal guns and gang violence.







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Helo

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The third amendment has done more to hurt, rather than help the nation

I know I enjoy having soldiers stay at my house






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[quote]There is no coincidence why countries like Canada and the UK don't have all this gun violence. The third amendment has done more to hurt, rather than help the nation IMO. [/]

I agree. Having to obtain a home owner's consent before quartering soldiers in his home during peacetime has caused the ultraviolent culture in the US.






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It is easy to have a knee jerk reaction right after a traumatic event but to answer your question, If we enter a cinematic dark age, it will have zero to do with this shooting and will be pushed by the continuing expansion of the 'Michael Bay' effect.


I think it will be a bit of both. They will look at what Nolan's creative vision supposedly led to and may figure that a Dark Knight/Dark Knight Rises is worth truly less than Michael Bay films.

But there will also be another reason which will enable the cinematic dark age: China. China now has the second highest amount of ticket sales in the world. And please note this is of last year, when only 20 foreign films were permitted for theatrical release. Now, with last year being such a big success, they are now allowing for 34 films to be released each year. This has changed plots completely, from Battleship to Red Dawn. Film producers are now consciously thinking about the Chinese audience when they make these films. You know what China doesn't allow to be released in this country: R-Rated films. So regardless of this recent tragedy, there are going to be less R-Rated films regardless due to China's overwhelming presence (and I still have yet to see Prometheus because of this).

So with China on the rise, this tragedy causing a national media and public shite storm, and the popcorn eating masses continuing to prove they'll pay for stupid bull shite (though for the most part I've been proud of film goers this year for what they're paying big money to see), the timing is perfect to frick everything up and make it a producer driven industry that plays it safe rather than creative driven industry like most writers and directors want it.



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And please guys, get off the gun shite. This is not the thread for that. If you want to talk about that, go to the Poliboard.





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In a way it should. Guns are too accessible. Also how did this unemployed kid afford all those guns and explosives?



See, I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite and gunpowder and gasoline. Do you know what all these things have in common? They're cheap.






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Holy overreaction thread





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I'm with Prom. This will have almost no impact whatsoever. Crazy people gonna be crazy. Someone shot a president because of Taxi Driver, and we didn't stop making movies then. I doubt we'll stop now.





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