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Democrats are dreading a Wisconsin wipeout


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Given current polling, it is not surprising that Democrats in Wisconsin are freaking out. The Wall Street Journal reports: “With little more than two weeks until Wisconsin’s gubernatorial recall election, some Democratic and union officials quietly are expressing fears that they have picked a fight they won’t win and that could leave lingering injuries.” No one is bothering to claim a Scott Walker victory would be insignificant:

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The election has taken on significance beyond Wisconsin state politics: Organized labor sees the battle as a major stand against GOP efforts to scale back collective-bargaining rights for public-sector workers, as Mr. Walker did after taking office in 2011. Some Democrats now fear mobilizing Republicans to battle the recall could carry over to help the party — and Republican Mitt Romney — in November’s presidential election. .?.?.

For the left-leaning groups that have spent months trying to oust Mr. Walker, a loss would be a deflating end to a process that began with unions and their allies gathering more than 900,000 signatures to force a recall.

From the start, some in the Democratic Party worried that a Wisconsin recall could drain needed resources, fire up the conservative base and ultimately make it more difficult for Mr. Obama to win the state.








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dewster
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Sadly, this impending humiliation could have been avoided had they not challenged via recall.





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Freauxzen
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The tears shall fill the streets, and I will laugh.

After being asked to sign a ridiculous petition every single time I walked out of my apartment, and hearing the protesters singing at 6am in the morning, it can not come soon enough.

And they all completely ignore the turnaround in the state, which just makes it sweeter.






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And they all completely ignore the turnaround in the state, which just makes it sweeter.


Reality is not a strong suit for libs in general...






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MinnesotaTiger
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how much is this recall estimated to be costing the state?

i am in Wisconsin every week and I'd like to tell some dumbass union worker "thanks for wasting x millions of dollars to accomplish nothing".






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udtiger
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I saw $18 million in the endorsement Walker got from the Milwaukee paper.





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Freauxzen
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$18 million


I heard 12 recently, but I thought that was a lowball.






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wickowick
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i am in Wisconsin every week and I'd like to tell some dumbass union worker "thanks for wasting x millions of dollars to accomplish nothing".


Let the unions waste it, they are spending (spent) a ton to defeat Walker and that money will not be replenished in the coffers…






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TommyCheeseballs
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This whole thing is looking like a gigantic collosal failure from the left, the likes of which is rarely seen.

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The tears shall fill the streets, and I will laugh.


As will I. Like I've said before I hate the militant haters 1,000 times more than I like Walker. They're enraging. If I never have to hear some a-hole saying "Koch Brothers!" or "John Doe!" it'll be too soon.






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It's going to be tough getting all of their volunteers to donate all of their time for the Presidential race after getting zeroed for all of their recall efforts.





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Let the unions waste it, they are spending (spent) a ton to defeat Walker and that money will not be replenished in the coffers…


How much did the R's have to spend to fight the recalls last year and this year?






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wickowick
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Looks like ~80 million total LINK...

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Special interest groups, political heavyweights and average citizens are investing heavily in the Badger State these days, so much so that by the time an expected recall election takes place in June, political fundraising and spending for both sides could total $80 million, shattering the record for a Wisconsin state race.


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"Everybody wants to be in on it because they realize the historical significance of it," said Jesse Garza, chairman of the St. Croix County Republican Party. "This is extremely unusual. For the president himself, this is high stakes. This is a state he won in 2008. If he can't turn out the base to get rid of a governor his base hates, he's going to struggle.

"That's why all the money is coming in. It's not all about saving Walker. It's about saving Obama."


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The biggest outside spender for Republicans so far is Americans For Prosperity, a conservative group funded largely by billionaires David and Charles Koch of Koch Industries, McCabe said.

On the flip side, the National Democratic Governors Association is raising large sums. So is We Are Wisconsin, which, despite its name, raises most of its money outside the state, McCabe said. The organization spent $10.7 million on last summer's senate recall races, with $10.1 million coming from three national unions -- the AFL-CIO, AFSCME and the Service Employees International Union.






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Bestbank Tiger
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Looks like ~80 million total LINK...




Sounds like both sides are draining their resources on this.






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TommyCheeseballs
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Sounds like both sides are draining their resources on this.


Yes, and on a relatively tiny pool of undecided voters.






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wickowick
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But the unions know that if they lose and the Walker's reforms are a success (actually this is already happening) then it can spread to other states...





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Apparently Wisconsin democrats and their comrades nationwide still need to be taught the lesson, elections have consequences.





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Sounds like both sides are draining their resources on this.
No doubt.

But, Walker's fund-raising apparatus hasn't changed. The left's (mandatory union dues) has been fundamentally transformed, and that's why they had to fight so hard to stop it from succeeding.






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ljhog
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Sounds like both sides are draining their resources on this.

Walker has around 25M in his campaign war chest. The commie has about 1M.






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Reubaltaich
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Freauxzen


Whats your feeling for this November?

I read the WI is now a 'battle ground' state.
A state that was once a lock for the Dems is now a highly competive race for the POTUS race.






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Freauxzen
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Whats your feeling for this November?

I read the WI is now a 'battle ground' state.
A state that was once a lock for the Dems is now a highly competive race for the POTUS race.


Eh, I still think it goes for Obama. 90% of my friends (ages 21-34) are pro-Obama (they may not be liberals, there's a difference). If they get out to vote again, like in 08, he'll carry it easily.

Come to think of it, none of the people around my age FROM Wisconsin will vote Republican. not a single one. That's probably the way it is for the most part (this will be my 5th year in total here, 4 before, 1 now).

Like any battleground it's about motivation, there are more republican areas (anything outside of Madtown and BrewCity basically) but they have to vote too.






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