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Brokered Convention Coming!!!


Folks get your popcorn ready because Michael Steele is the 3rd person I heard tonight say that Romney won't sure up the nomination before the end of June. In other words this is going to the convention.






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Sentrius
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I hope this doesn't happen. Obama's war chest is fricking huge and Mitt Romney needs to campaign as much as possible general election style against Obama. He can't afford to have to still worry about 3 other rivals at the end of June.

I'll check this thread in the morning. Night Y'all.






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tiger1014
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Brokered Convention Coming!!!



I agree.

When you have Romney's people actually starting to admit they won't get a majority this early in the campaign, they know it won't happen.

Santorum and Newt states are coming up. No one will have a majority






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Joshjrn
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The Republican party has its head so far up its arse that we may have gotten to the point where having the party tear itself apart in a brokered convention is the only way to dislodge it.





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I guess this explains the Paul/ Romney truce. Although, Paul hit him with a few jabs recently.





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The establishment is for Romney on the surface but his support is very weak. There is a reason Andy Card has been dropping Jebs name the last few weeks. I think the fix is in if a brokered convention occurs for either a Jeb, Daniels, or Christie. That is why you see this Romney/ Paul alliance forming. It's based on the notion that Romney can't play ball with the other 2 and Paul could possibly get him over the top. Romney is in real trouble if he goes to a convention and Paul might be his only hope. If the buzz is all about Bush, Daniels or Christie at the convention then Romney won't be able to count on those 100 plus Super Delegates.





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I really doubt it. Romney will start racking up delegates.. especially when the winner take alls start rolling around.





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tiger1014
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Message Posted by The Boat I really doubt it. Romney will start racking up delegates.. especially when the winner take alls start rolling around.


Ya those southern states rolling around is really conducive to that :rollseyes:






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The Boat
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Those states barely have any delegates and Romney will take some of the proportional ones.


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In the coming few weeks, only Illinois is conducive to Romney.

That's not going to do wonders for his narrative. Losing every state in the south isn't going to be conducive to "racking up massive amounts of delegates."

He's going to do better once he gets over the next few weeks. But the momentum may be with Santorum and Newt if they do well (as he is expected to do) in the South.

Of course neither can win with the other in the race. Which is why Romney is inevitable because neither will ever leave the race.

It's just going to take a looonnggg time and potentially (crosses fingers) a brokered convention.






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Navytiger74
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I hope this doesn't happen. Obama's war chest is fricking huge and Mitt Romney needs to campaign as much as possible general election style against Obama. He can't afford to have to still worry about 3 other rivals at the end of June.


I honestly don't get why everyone else can't see that this (brokered convention) is a losing proposition. If a brokered convention leads to the nomination of anyone without a HUGE national profile and the ability to raise HUGE amounts of money, Obama will win in a walk. Choosing someone who didn't even have the guts to sack up and run will piss off the supporters (and money) of every candidate who's taken the time to build an organization, fund raise, and get out there to put it on the line.

I know that you guys are all hoping that some sort of beautiful reordering will arise out of chaos, but this is nonsense. It's time to wrap this shite up. Romney's not exciting to anyone (myself included) but he is, simply, the most electable, has the best organization, and can raise the most cash.

Every panelist on all major networks is saying what's painfully apparent to everyone save those invested in tanking Romney. The president's sitting back, raising money, and cracking jokes while the Republican party is slogging it out and staying negative (toward each other).

It's at least time for Paul and either Gingrich or Santorum to hang it up. Paul's not going to win and Gingrich and Santorum are vying for the same anti-Romney, non-Paul voters.

At what point does the party leadership, if we can even claim to have any at this point, step in and start wheeling and dealing (and threatening).



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Sentrius
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Navytiger74


I was just about to go to bed when I saw your post.

I agree 100%. The GOP has to unite around a single candiate ASAP to have a realistic shot in the general. The primaries is the most damaging thing that can happen in election politics.

Bedtime for real.






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At what point does the party leadership, if we can even claim to have any at this point, step in and start wheeling and dealing (and threatening).



The "party leadership" is the one that has pushed Romney from the beginning, and much of the public has rejected him. Making threats to further help their boy out would only disenfranchise the R base even more.






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If Hilary and Obama didn't destroy their party in 2008 then nothing will destroy a party. That was the most ferocious and drawn out nomination process anyone can remember. Get this thing done by June and we'll be fine.

ETA: Romney will likely hit the magic number on June 5th. Winning New Jersey and California would give him about 206 delegates. It'll officially be over then. Candidates will drop out before then.



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Navytiger74
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Making threats to further help their boy out would only disenfranchise the R base


The threats are made behind closed doors, dude.






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kingbob
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The reasons are thus: No one loves Romney. The establishment picked him because he's a good looking public who speaks well. However, his previous stances make him look like John Kerry 2.0 and his current stances aren't that much different from Obama. Plus, you eliminate one of the biggest hammering points to rally against Obama on, his unconstitutional healthcare plan that Romney helped implement in his own state.

Newt may be intelligent, but he is a walking character flaw. He just comes off as a lying, slimy, snake in the grass. Plus, he was formerly pushing for health care reform, cap and trade, bailouts, and Dodd Frank. Sounds real conservative to me.

Santorum is an idiot. He's a big government Neo-con whose economic policy isn't bad (short-sited maybe, but not bad). Too bad no one's ever heard it. The idiot can't stop talking about social issues when the election needs to be about the economy, jobs, taxes, spending, and healthcare. This is especially true when the most fired up part of your base is the tea party which has said to hell with social issues, we need tax, spending, healthcare, and economic reform.

And then there's Paul. He has the ideas. Some are absolutely necessary (end the fed, slash spending, end foreign wars, true free trade, end foreign aid, ect.), but his delivery is poor. He's all about substance, but he doesn't have the style to win over America's dumb electorate. It also doesn't help when the media treats you like room 13 in a hotel.

Paul's what we need, but Romney's what we're getting. Actually, 4 more years of Obama is what we're getting. If Romney is nominated, republicans will stay home in Droves and Obama will cruise to an easy reelection.






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NHTIGER
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Romney sitting at 40.5% of the cumulative (all primaries & caucuses so far) popular vote after Super Tuesday.

Santorum at 24.8%, Gingrich at 23.2% and Paul at 11.4%.

Going to be interesting to watch the dogfight between Santorum and Gingrich next week in Mississippi and Alabama for bragging rights to the #2 spot.






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fr33manator
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Shame, really. Paul is the only one who would effectively beat Obama. Which is why the MSM avoids any and all talk of him.






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Navytiger74
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If Hilary and Obama didn't destroy their party in 2008 then nothing will destroy a party. That was the most ferocious and drawn out nomination process anyone can remember. Get this thing done by June and we'll be fine.


I think those circumstances were fairly unusual. 1. I think the exposure helped Obama by, to a large degree, demystifying him and airing out a lot of his dirty laundry at a time when it was less damaging. By August, the Wright and Ayers stories were pretty old hat. Of course, the media could have resurrected them, but they didn't.

2. If Hillary had won, it would have been much more problematic.

3. There was almost no chance that a Republican was going to win in November. I don't know why that wasn't clearer to everyone earlier. Obama's a good campaigner who overcame a lot of personal liabilities, but he won because of landscape. John Kerry would have won by 7.






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Navytiger74
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Shame, really. Paul is the only one who would effectively beat Obama. Which is why the MSM avoids any and all talk of him.


That's a fantasy. You can forget about those polls I'm sure you'll be citing. Paul would lose to Obama by 6-10 points. His run would almost have the feel of a third party candidate running in a two-party race. Whatever minor independent support he can muster will be swamped by Obama's Democratic/independent support in blue states. Think about it. National polls are irrelevant at this point. A few pot-heads and anti-war activists aren't going to flip California, the NE, the Unionist in the midwest (Ohio, Michigan, etc) or, probably, Washington and Oregon. His foreign policy positions could put Georgia in play and will guarantee an Obama victory in Virginia and NC. He'll win the deep South, Texas, and Oklahoma because blacks are Obama's only significant support in those states and everyone else hates Obama like I hate cancer. I wouldn't put any other state in the Union out of Obama's reach.

Paul's electability is a myth. He can't even win a single fricking primary. He's never won a single primary. Say that to yourself. A guy who can't win a single primary in his own party is supposed to defeat a sitting president of middling popularity?

Come on.






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