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Has the 'God Particle' Been Found? Major Announcement Expected Tuesday

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The announcement, planned for 8 a.m. EST (2 p.m. CET), will address the status of the search for the elusive Higgs boson particle, sometimes called the "God Particle" because of its importance to science.

The $10 billion Large Hadron Collider is the world's largest scientific machine. Built by the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), the atom smasher is intended to enact the conditions of the "Big Bang" -- to unlock the secrets of the universe.

This particle, which has long been theorized but never detected, is thought to give all other particles mass. Scientists at the LHC have been hoping that when protons inside the machine collide together at extremely high speeds, the energetic explosions that result will create the Higgs.

Researchers on two of the LHC's experiments, called ATLAS and CMS, will present the status of their search for the Higgs at a public seminar tomorrow.

"These results will be based on the analysis of considerably more data than those presented at the summer conferences, sufficient to make significant progress in the search for the Higgs boson, but not enough to make any conclusive statement on the existence or non-existence of the Higgs," CERN scientists said in a statement.

At that time, while the atom smasher was churning out lots of data from colliding particles, researchers had yet to see any conclusive evidence of the Higgs.

If scientists have found an indication of the Higgs, it could have far-reaching consequences in physics. It is the only particle predicted by the reigning theory of particle physics that has not yet been observed experimentally. Its discovery would help validate this theory, called the Standard Model, and fill in some of the remaining gaps in physicists' understanding of the smallest pieces of the universe.
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"These results will be based on the analysis of considerably more data than those presented at the summer conferences, sufficient to make significant progress in the search for the Higgs boson, but not enough to make any conclusive statement on the existence or non-existence of the Higgs," CERN scientists said in a statement.

At that time, while the atom smasher was churning out lots of data from colliding particles, researchers had yet to see any conclusive evidence of the Higgs.



So they don't actually see it, they just see a whole bunch of evidence around it that points to the existence of it.

Talk about faith!


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Would be awesome if they did find something


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So they don't actually see it, they just see a whole bunch of evidence around it that points to the existence of it.
It's the same with black holes. No one now doubts they exist, but they can't be seen. Their existence can be proven via other means. It's not faith; it's science.


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olgoi khorkhoi
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The $10 billion Large Hadron Collider is the world's largest scientific machine. Built by the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), the atom smasher is intended to enact the conditions of the "Big Bang" -- to unlock the secrets of the universe.



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Scientists at the LHC have been hoping that when protons inside the machine collide together at extremely high speeds, the energetic explosions that result will create the Higgs.


How'd the protons get there?


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re: Has the 'God Particle' Been Found? Major Announcement Expected Tuesday
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So they don't actually see it, they just see a whole bunch of evidence around it that points to the existence of it.

Talk about faith!


You do know we can't possibly see atoms right (maybe in the future but not now). Atoms are just theoretical, but there is tons of evidence that suggests they exists and the components that make up atoms. Talk about faith!


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You do know we can't possibly see atoms right (maybe in the future but not now). Atoms are just theoretical,


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re: Has the 'God Particle' Been Found? Major Announcement Expected Tuesday
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You do know we can't possibly see atoms right (maybe in the future but not now).

um, have you been in a time capsule for the last three decades????

We most certainly CAN see atoms, and have been able to for quite some time.


OMLandshark
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re: Has the 'God Particle' Been Found? Major Announcement Expected Tuesday
Oh...... some reason thought we were only able to see down to large molecules with that thing.... I'll shut my trap for now.


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I'll be watching the press conference tomorrow with my research group. Should be cool!


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tiger1014
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I thought with all of their stuff they announced a few weeks about certain particles moving faster than the speed of light made the Higg's Particle less likely to exist, at least in the form in which they previously hypothesized?

Haven't followed it much, but I'll be looking out for the announcement in the morning.
This post was edited on 12/13 at 1:25 am


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re: Has the 'God Particle' Been Found? Major Announcement Expected Tuesday
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I thought with all of their stuff they announced a few weeks about certain particles moving faster than the speed of light

debunked

And I am skeptical of the standard model, but I am still interested to see what they find.


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debunked

And I am skeptical of the standard model, but I am still interested to see what they find.


I don't really believe the result, but I haven't heard of anything debunking entirely yet.


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Has the 'God Particle' Been Found? Major Announcement Expected Tuesday


Nope.. and my god the live streaming was horrible...


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catholictigerfan
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there is no such thing as the "God Particle"

if there is a "God Particle" then that would take away from the simplicity of God, and the omnipresence of God.

but this "God Particle" is just going to explain some new physical feature that happens in the universe.

Yes God exists in that particle in his entirety, but god also exists in his entirety in the computer your typing on. The Cable modem you use to connect to the internet. The house you live in, and so on and so forth.

I believe Science can prove God's existence, not to atheists though, but you will never be able to find some that exists in the universe and say this is God and nothing else is.


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re: Has the 'God Particle' Been Found? Major Announcement Expected Tuesday
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So they don't actually see it, they just see a whole bunch of evidence around it that points to the existence of it.

Talk about faith!



the simple fact that we finite dependent beings exist, is enough to show that some type of God exists. Well atleast some being that can't fail to exist and is the reason for everything else's existence.


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re: Has the 'God Particle' Been Found? Major Announcement Expected Tuesday
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So they don't actually see it, they just see a whole bunch of evidence around it that points to the existence of it.

Talk about faith!


Yeah, that's totally the same as believing in a god because your parents and preacher raised you to.

Do you not think that we should convict someone of murder unless we know of someone who, without any doubt, saw the murder take place? Or should we do things like rely on "evidence around it that points to" the murder actually taking place?

That's how science works. I'm sorry you don't understand that.


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the simple fact that we finite dependent beings exist, is enough to show that some type of God exists. Well atleast some being that can't fail to exist and is the reason for everything else's existence.


This is philosophical garbage and not real science.


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re: Has the 'God Particle' Been Found? Major Announcement Expected Tuesday
It's not really a "God" particle.

The Higgs boson is the particle that constitutes the Higgs field.

The interaction by particles with the Higgs field is what gives particles their mass.


ETA: Well, that's how the model goes.


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OMLandshark
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Do you not think that we should convict someone of murder unless we know of someone who, without any doubt, saw the murder take place? Or should we do things like rely on "evidence around it that points to" the murder actually taking place?

That's how science works. I'm sorry you don't understand that.



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