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Lsut81
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Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill

Well that was quick... I dont want to argue whether they should or shouldn't be paid for.

I'm more interested if you think this is another broken promise or just semantics

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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The Obama administration has officially approved the first instance of taxpayer funded abortions under the new national government-run health care program. This is the kind of abortion funding the pro-life movement warned about when Congress considered the bill.

The Obama Administration will give Pennsylvania $160 million to set up a new "high-risk" insurance program under a provision of the federal health care legislation enacted in March.

It has quietly approved a plan submitted by an appointee of pro-abortion Governor Edward Rendell under which the new program will cover any abortion that is legal in Pennsylvania.

The high-risk pool program is one of the new programs created by the sweeping health care legislation, Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, President Obama signed into law on March 23. The law authorizes $5 billion in federal funds for the program, which will cover as many as 400,000 people when it is implemented nationwide.

"The Obama Administration will give Pennsylvania $160 million in federal tax funds, which we've discovered will pay for insurance plans that cover any legal abortion," said Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee.

Johnson told LifeNews.com: "This is just the first proof of the phoniness of President Obama's assurances that federal funds would not subsidize abortion -- but it will not be the last."



Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
Good. Save the taxpayers $$$$


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Jay Quest
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Member since Nov 2009
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
This simply can't be true. I listened while Barry Obama insisted that tax funded abortions under his healthcare plan was a Republican lie. He even smirked when he said it so I know he was telling the truth.


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thetempleowl
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dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
I don't care. How is answer for you?

Fact is abortions are legal.

Fact is abortions are sometimes medically needed.

The above two FACTS are not in dispute.

So let them pay for them.


Lsut81
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
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I don't care. How is answer for you?

Fact is abortions are legal.

Fact is abortions are sometimes medically needed.

The above two FACTS are not in dispute.

So let them pay for them.



Way to answer the question I posed


Jay Quest
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
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I don't care.

Do you care that your president looked into a camera and lied to you?


Monkey
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
what was the language used?

I am not surprised, and frankly think its a good thing. We need more abortions in this country, not less.

Think about how much better this board would be if everyone with a substandard IQ was terminated before coming into this world?


Lsut81
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
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I am not surprised, and frankly think its a good thing. We need more abortions in this country, not less.


Again, I don't care about debating whether abortions are right or wrong....

Just wondering if this can be considered another Obama lie or not

I mean, he signed an executive order in front of Stupak to get his vote.


Monkey
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
4172 posts

re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
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Just wondering if this can be considered another Obama lie or not

I mean, he signed an executive order in front of Stupak to get his vote.


if his lips were moving, he was lying. And its not just limited to him.


drtiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
1668 posts

re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
That's your opinion. And it is a fact that sometimes they are medically necessary.

Another FACT is that the regime head told you and everyone else in the country that no taxpayer money would go to abortions. If it makes you feel better to say "who cares" because you believe that it should be that way, then whatever helps you sleep at night.

FACT: Obama is a liar. This is just ANOTHER instance. Bet Stupak feels like an idiot even more now.


NoHoTiger
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
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I'm more interested if you think this is another broken promise or just semantics


I think that every politician lies every time he or she speaks. The cynic in me says never believe a politician, I will only be disappointed in the future when they fail to uphold what they said they were going to do.

BTW: I agree with several of the other posters. If the abortion is legal, why shouldn't the insurance pay for it?


arlo
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Member since Oct 2007
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Think about how much better this board would be if everyone with a substandard IQ was terminated before coming into this world?


Hoping this was sarcastic.


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CITWTT
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Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts

re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
it is not some nebulous "them" that is going to pay for the abortions, it is ME a person who is opposed to on demand abortions as a means of birth control for the mentally challenged that don''t or won't use the pill or a condom.


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drtiger
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Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
Because there is this pesky thing called a law on the books that states that no taxpayer money can fund abortion. Even obammer signed an executive order affirming this. However it is simply not the case.

I would be ok for medically necessary abortions being ok. But that is not the case. Obama is above the law though


BBONDS25
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This post was edited on 8/28 at 1:32 pm


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HonoraryCoonass
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
"We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it."


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TigerNAtux
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Member since Dec 2007
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
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if his lips were moving, he was lying.




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thetempleowl
Temple Fan
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
10820 posts

re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
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That's your opinion.


What is? They are sometimes medically needed or that they are currently legal?

Fact is they are both facts. Abortions are sometimes needed and they are legal. The government somehow already pays for some of these.

I don't know about the whole language. Maybe he said this healthcare plan will not pay for abortions. Then he used other funds not in the healthcare plan to pay for this.

At the end of the day, I really don't care.

Sorry, this doesn't excite me.

And honestly, when politicians talk, you can count on them not telling the whole truth. Nothing new, and nothing unexpected. And the few times I have tried to get people to hold politicians and themselves responsible for the ridiculous lies they have told, no one cares.

If you can show me where Obama said NO government money would be spent on abortions and then used money on abortions fine. He lied. But that just wouldn't have been true from the get go. Because government money was already being used to fund some abortions.

If he said the healthcare plan will not pay for abortions and then he used other money to pay for the abortions, he didn't lie at all.


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ottothewise
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Member since Sep 2008
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re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
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Think about how much better this board would be if everyone with a substandard IQ was terminated before coming into this world?



no such test exists however.

I presume your substandard means less than you have.


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MightyYat
LSU Fan
4th Ward
Member since Jan 2009
9426 posts

re: Abortions paid for under Health Care Bill
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Do you care that your president looked into a camera and lied to you?


Reagan and Bush 1 lied about Iran Contra.
Clinton lied about the ladies.
Bush 2 lied about WMDs
Now Obama lies about abortions.


See a pattern here?


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