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re: Declaration of Independence
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:44 am to JazzyJeff
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:44 am to JazzyJeff
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Shouldn't you be out looking for new planets, stars, or...aliens?
I do theory.
Tried the observing thing for 1 1/2 years. Decided I like to sleep at night.
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:50 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:I like sleep too. Hence my good looks.
I do theory.
Tried the observing thing for 1 1/2 years. Decided I like to sleep at night.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 3:01 am to SpidermanTUba
voter ID laws. A balanced budget. Not a law, but the Keystone pipeline and using the EPA to rape the economy.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:29 am to Scoop
Good post, Scoop. Very thoughtful and astute.
Would it not be a good thing if we could return FedGov and the Presidency to the traditional constraints of the Constitution?
Would it not be a good thing if we could return FedGov and the Presidency to the traditional constraints of the Constitution?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:13 am to GumboPot
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Then a nation formed by people that predominantly lived by Christian values. Is that better?
Not really.
The chief architect of the Declaration was a Deist and the late 1800s was one of, if not the least religious periods in U.S. history. The idea of Republicanism is born out of objective morality - the same idea that comprises Christianity's moral system. But that does mean one caused the other.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:15 am to Champagne
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Would it not be a good thing if we could return FedGov and the Presidency to the traditional constraints of the Constitution?
Remember that the Declaration of Independence is not technically a legal document and was drafted a decade before the Constitution.
One the issues with George, III was a lack of check on his power. Our system is set up to check (and stop if necessary) the usurpation of power by the Executive Branch.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:21 am to Scoop
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He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
And all of this arose out of a 2% tax on a breakfast beverage that wasn't even coffee.
George III/Parliament never gave a single thought to controlling healthcare.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:21 am to Scoop
Your words would be more meaningful if it wasn't the fact that we elect our representatives as well as our president. King George III and members of Parliament weren't elected by anyone in the colonies
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:04 am to Godfather1
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And all of this arose out of a 2% tax on a breakfast beverage that wasn't even coffee.
That's not true at all.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:54 am to Antonio Moss
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Then a nation formed by people that predominantly lived by Christian values. Is that better?
Not really.
The chief architect of the Declaration was a Deist and the late 1800s was one of, if not the least religious periods in U.S. history. The idea of Republicanism is born out of objective morality - the same idea that comprises Christianity's moral system. But that does mean one caused the other.
Wrong, just wrong. I love people trying to look back on history and say that they really new what was going on. We don't. quote from wikipedia: in private letters Jefferson variously refers to himself as "Christian" (1803)
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:03 pm to Azranod
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and the late 1800s was one of, if not the least religious periods in U.S. history.
What does this have to do with the price of rice in China?
This country was founded in the late 18th Century(late 1700s).The Declaration of Independance was voted on by Congress on July 2, 1776 and the text being ratified July 4, 1776. The United States Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787, by the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and ratified by conventions in eleven States. It went into effect on March 4, 1789
ETA: this not the
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:08 pm to Antonio Moss
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Our system is set up to check (and stop if necessary) the usurpation of power by the Executive Branch.
FAIL
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:10 pm to RollTide1987
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Your words would be more meaningful if it wasn't the fact that we elect our representatives as well as our president. King George III and members of Parliament weren't elected by anyone in the colonies
Your rebuttal would be more meaningful if it wasn't known that the last two seperate POTUS were elected with the help of voter fraud.
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