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Being able to challenge judgement calls
Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:41 pm
Judgement calls by officials can really affect the outcome of games. In the end fans say, "the refs didn't lose the game, it was our inability to..." but in a lot of cases judgement calls can lead to 3, 7, 10, etc point swings. I know this has been brought up before but its worth pushing for in the NFL and even college imo. It may slow down the game by an extra 10 minutes but I think its worth getting these often huge momentum swing plays correct. So do you think a coach should be able to challenge a PI, Holding, Helmet to helmet and so on?
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 9:47 pm
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Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:43 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
I imagine this will be brought up in the offseason.
It will be interesting to see how this changes the dynamics of the game.
It will be interesting to see how this changes the dynamics of the game.
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:45 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
Yes, PI has turned into the biggest joke in sports IMO
Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:45 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
Affect*
Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:47 pm to castorinho
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Affect
You are correct
Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:49 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
There was a thread about this a couple of weeks ago agreeing with this point and also giving ways on how to limit the challenges so that it doesn't slow the game down.
Really no reason why they can't be challenged. It will be more difficult to overturn but it should be challengeable
Really no reason why they can't be challenged. It will be more difficult to overturn but it should be challengeable
Posted on 12/23/13 at 9:57 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
I think the issue is overturning judgement calls. It would seem that the call would have to be blatantly wrong for it to be overturned as most officials aren't going to overturn a 50/50 call of one of his crew members.
Also it would seem that you could track the number of overturned judgement calls of each referree and use it as a measure of accuracy (which im not arguing is a baf thing).
Also it would seem that you could track the number of overturned judgement calls of each referree and use it as a measure of accuracy (which im not arguing is a baf thing).
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:04 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
I think all penalties should be able to be challenged with each game having a head ref in the booth who's only responsibility is to make a judgment on the call.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:08 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
I think the helmet to helmet and defenseless player penalties should be reviewed.
They should be taken out, you have a helmet and shoulder pads, you're not defenseless
They should be taken out, you have a helmet and shoulder pads, you're not defenseless
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:12 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
I think so. Keep the same challenge rules but allow anything to be challengeable.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:44 pm to TypoKnig
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Also it would seem that you could track the number of overturned judgement calls of each referree and use it as a measure of accuracy (which im not arguing is a baf thing).
It's done now...Dumbass. The League grades every official on every play. Not only the fouls they call, but the fouls they miss and their position on the field....etc.
At the end of the year, officials with the highest grade get a playoff assignment; the top at each position works the SB
Posted on 12/23/13 at 10:46 pm to arrakis
Calm the frick down.
I know the league audits the refs. I meant that the media and fans could easily track reversed calls of each official.
I know the league audits the refs. I meant that the media and fans could easily track reversed calls of each official.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 1:42 am to CRAZY 4 LSU
The idea that allowing coaches to challenge judgment calls would slow the game down is illogical. A coach gets two challenges. If you expand challengeable plays, he still gets two challenges.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 3:29 am to CRAZY 4 LSU
Penn Wagers wouldn't have a single call stand if judgment calls were overturned.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:41 am to ballscaster
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The idea that allowing coaches to challenge judgment calls would slow the game down is illogical. A coach gets two challenges. If you expand challengeable plays, he still gets two challenges.
Yea but you don't always use your challenges. This would result in more challenges as the "challengeable universe" is expanded. Again, I don't think it would be significant though.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:53 am to CRAZY 4 LSU
quote:Yes but you almost always burn two timeouts. A failed challenge is a timeout.
Yea but you don't always use your challenges. This would result in more challenges as the "challengeable universe" is expanded. Again, I don't think it would be significant though.
Also, coaches will quickly learn the logical conflict between "judgment call" and "indisputable evidence." If a coach challenges a pass interference no-call, he will almost always lose on account of this. And he'll learn that such a challenge might not be worth risking a timeout.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:58 am to CRAZY 4 LSU
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Yea but you don't always use your challenges. This would result in more challenges as the "challengeable universe" is expanded. Again, I don't think it would be significant though.
Even if both teams used all their challenges and won, thus securing a third challenge, isn't there a time limit of 2 minutes on the review?
So under that scenario, you'd be adding a maximum of 12 minutes to broadcast time.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:23 am to CRAZY 4 LSU
You would think that with the amount of money and everything else that is on the line with these games, the NFL would be doing everything in it's power to keep the refs from impacting the game/getting the calls right.
The system they have now isn't working. I wish someone like SI would do a detailed look into missed calls or calls that changed a game.
The system they have now isn't working. I wish someone like SI would do a detailed look into missed calls or calls that changed a game.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:45 am to hiltacular
Something has to change.
The penalty on Whitner last night was utterly ridiculous. If that had been the final drive of a four point game...
The penalty on Whitner last night was utterly ridiculous. If that had been the final drive of a four point game...
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