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Effect of Revamped Offense on Defense

Posted on 9/19/13 at 3:54 pm
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 3:54 pm
Story so far this year is that the offense has been shining and the defense seems to be missing a step from what we've been accustomed to seeing with Chief.

The biggest complaint regarding the defense during his time was focused on T.O.P. and the offense leaving the defense to fend for themselves. Has never been much to be concerned with but the defense getting "gassed."

Through three games, we're actually losing the T.O.P. battle, and I'm wondering if this is a concern heading into SEC play. Oregon is showing this year that the quick-strike offense can still coexist with a dominant defense.

So...

Option A) The T.O.P. battle isn't nearly as big of a deal as it has been made out to be.

Option B) The defense is hurting themselves by allowing further sustained drives

Option C) The running game needs to get back on track (with the reinstatement of Hill) so that we can milk the clock when need arises.
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 3:56 pm to
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Oregon
quote:

dominant defense
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Story so far this year is that the offense has been shining and the defense seems to be missing a step from what we've been accustomed to seeing with Chief.



We are doing incredibly well in almost every defensive category.

Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 3:59 pm to
We can't judge anything until we have played a couple SEC games. At least wait till after Georgia.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 4:01 pm to
top may or may not be relevant in a ball game. just like yardage gained may or may not be relevant. imo, if our top is less than our opponents this year i would say, by observation alone, that is due to quick scoring on the offense and by our D not getting enough 3 and outs. seems to me a number of our td's have come from just outside the red zone and thru the air. it also seems to me that we have not forced that many punts this year.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12860 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 4:01 pm to
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Option A) The T.O.P. battle isn't nearly as big of a deal as it has been made out to be.


This is true, IF you are confident that either your offense can score almost at will, or that the opposing team can not score at will.
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6194 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 4:02 pm to
People complained last year bc our O couldn't do much and punted, leaving the D on the field longer.

Now this year people are complaining because our O is scoring too fast, leaving the D on the field longer.

Lose lose situation.
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 4:04 pm to
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We are doing incredibly well in almost every defensive category.



You would never know it the way some people are acting. A top 30 offense and defense can win a natty. I'll take it.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 4:06 pm to
We are doing extremely well, but there are cracks in the foundation (youth, mostly). We've gotten burned a few times by players not the caliber of those we put on the field.

I wouldn't raise the alarm, but it needs to get fixed. We're still an impressive defense, but I'd take our DOMINANT defenses from 2010-12 over what is CURRENTLY on the field.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

People complained last year bc our O couldn't do much and punted, leaving the D on the field longer. Now this year people are complaining because our O is scoring too fast, leaving the D on the field longer


ok, ok. please listen to yourself. people complaining about people complaining seems to be getting more time of possession (of the podium) than people complaining. therefore, i would like to be one of the first to complain about people complaing about people complaining.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 4:17 pm to
Our competition has been subpar so I would hope our defense would rank well. It does but that doesn't mean squat at this point other than it means they aren't horrible. Indicates average at worst.

But watch the defense! You don't need a stat to tell you when someone can't shed a block or more likely takes their self out of position.

The good news is our DT and DE are doing a very very good job. If we had problems their it would be much much less likely that their would be significant improvement this season.

But the good thing is the problems we are having on defense at least have a decent chance to be fixed. Brain mistakes... understanding.

And consider that half the time it wasn't even the eventual starters that were making those mistakes. Two guys fighting for a spot means twice the chance that one of them "gets it" / "steps up".

I am hopeful that by the Georgia game the defense will be more settled. And hoping it doesn't cost us this weekend.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 4:31 pm to
Total Defense - LSU ranked 10th in the nation
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 4:37 pm to
TOP is a pretty useless stat, generally.

But the defense can't get off the damn field either.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 5:03 pm to
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Lose lose situation.
Get up quick early and ask D to give it all to hold opp and run more ball control 2nd half.
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 5:09 pm to
Auburn will be challenging w running QB (if needed) and wide open offensive play calling. I'm looking for the defense to play well and get better and better as the game moves along. Georgia will be a different situation with most accomplished QB in SEC history and All-American running back. If we get through Sept. we'll be #3 in the country. Right where we need to be. One at a time..... NEXT!
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 5:19 pm to
Our LBs need some fine tuning but the D always takes longer than the O.
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