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How common are Non exempt salary jobs

Posted on 8/29/13 at 9:15 pm
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 8/29/13 at 9:15 pm
How normal are non exempt salary jobs.(salary but eligible for OT) I just started working one and had never heard of anyone actually getting a job like this. I've been pretty excited about it.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7868 posts
Posted on 8/29/13 at 9:46 pm to
Just curious, why are you excited about this classification?



Posted by jmtigers
1826.71 miles from USC
Member since Sep 2003
4970 posts
Posted on 8/29/13 at 9:52 pm to
He can be paid overtime. My job offers this as long as the hours are for sure billable to a client/project.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7868 posts
Posted on 8/29/13 at 9:59 pm to
I ask because I had to re-classify an employee as non-exempt and it can be viewed as a demotion. Salary non-exempt is really an hourly position since you must track hours, right?

Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9312 posts
Posted on 8/29/13 at 10:02 pm to
I'm exempt and all of our admins are NES. We both have to track hours.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 8/29/13 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

Just curious, why are you excited about this classification?

I have to "track" hours but I get paid for 40 hours every week no matter if its 25 or 40 but if I go over I get overtime pay. So i get all the benefits of being salary: Leaving early on slow days long lunches etc and if i ever have a busy week or get called in I get paid for it
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89453 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 7:05 am to
Federal GS jobs are like that, at least for some agencies. Hours are tracked for time and attendance purposes, as well as leave, credit, comp, etc., so you could argue they're "hourly". They publish an hourly rate, primarily for OT or leave without pay purposes.

But certainly not "hourly" as the general public uses that term.
This post was edited on 8/30/13 at 7:06 am
Posted by TheDiesel
Phoenix
Member since Feb 2010
2608 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 7:30 am to
I'm an engineer that works for a contractor and we we non-exempt. I like it since I get paid if I have to stay and work over, as long as it is approved by the client.
Posted by Nobs
Houston
Member since Dec 2010
377 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 8:34 am to
I work for an oil major and we have some jobs like this. We consider them paraprofessional.

It's the middle ground between hourly people and technical professionals.

Our people only need to track and charge the OT hours. Their base rate is covered.
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2443 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:15 am to
quote:

I have to "track" hours but I get paid for 40 hours every week no matter if its 25 or 40 but if I go over I get overtime pay. So i get all the benefits of being salary: Leaving early on slow days long lunches etc and if i ever have a busy week or get called in I get paid for it


You might want to check on this. Seems like if I was your employer, I wouldn't be too thrilled about 25hr workweeks, regular long lunches and leaving early on "slow days"... especially if I'm going to be paying you 1.5x when you have to stay on "busy days"
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 10:25 am to
quote:

.(salary but eligible for OT)


Unless you plan on being a 9-5 (out the door at 5), 5 days a week person I dont understand how you could not see how anyone would be happy about being eligible for OT.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

You might want to check on this. Seems like if I was your employer, I wouldn't be too thrilled about 25hr workweeks, regular long lunches and leaving early on "slow days"... especially if I'm going to be paying you 1.5x when you have to stay on "busy days"


This is extremely common in the technical service world. The jobs may require a formal degree, but because you are doing repair work on customer sites for a significant percentage of your time federal labor laws requires the positions to be non-exempt. Most of these jobs have the employee working remote from any type of office setting, and the work load varies from boredom to brutal. It is not anything like a 9-5 job, and managers understand that when the schedule is light employees catch up on personal stuff because the next day my bring a 100 hour stretch with only enough time off to get a little sleep. G.E., Siemens, Philips Medical, Halliburton, tons of other major corps. have these type position, usually as field engineers.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

You might want to check on this. Seems like if I was your employer, I wouldn't be too thrilled about 25hr workweeks, regular long lunches and leaving early on "slow days"... especially if I'm going to be paying you 1.5x when you have to stay on "busy days"


I just said 25hr for an example. I just thought most non exempt jobs were govt. The pay isn't great but I put in my 40 and head home compared to some I know putting in 50-60+
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 8/30/13 at 8:21 pm to
Every engineering company that I know of hires most people as non exempt salary


Upper management may not be but they typically are eligible for bigger bonuses
Posted by Jibbajabba
Louisiana
Member since May 2011
3877 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 5:35 am to
I may be mistaken but i was under the impression that the only way you could be exempt salaried was if you directly supervised/evaluated subbordinate employees.
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