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re: Someone explain the BB ending.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 11:51 am to LoneStarTiger
Posted on 8/26/13 at 11:51 am to LoneStarTiger
let me put it another way:
- jesse 'found' the ricin cig in the roomba
- saul just admitted to jesse walt had him steal the ricin cig from the pack.
- therefore finding the ricin cig was staged by walt.
the end.
jesse knows walt manipulated him and even if you want to bitch about the intricacies of the whole lilly of the valley episode, this is enough.
jesse has had enough.
- jesse 'found' the ricin cig in the roomba
- saul just admitted to jesse walt had him steal the ricin cig from the pack.
- therefore finding the ricin cig was staged by walt.
the end.
jesse knows walt manipulated him and even if you want to bitch about the intricacies of the whole lilly of the valley episode, this is enough.
jesse has had enough.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 11:53 am
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 11:58 am to CAD703X
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jesse has had enough.
Exactly. I don't think Jesse really knows Walt poisoned Brock. I think he only suspects but doesn't care if he knows for sure or not.
He's realized that Walt took the ricin and then acted like Jesse was an idiot for losing it and then helped him find it in Jesse's own house.
He's realized that Walt is always up to something. He's always working selfishly and has for a year and a half used Jesse to get what he wants. He's just tired of it and is reacting emotionally.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 12:04 pm to townhallsavoy
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I don't think Jesse really knows Walt poisoned Brock.
I think he does now, especially after Saul was screaming that he didn't know what Walt was using it for
Posted on 8/26/13 at 12:06 pm to LoneStarTiger
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I think he does now,
He has to. If he doesn't know Walt poisoned Brock then he'd have to assume Brock being poisoned was just one big coincidence. There's no coincidences with Walt.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 1:22 pm to LoneStarTiger
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Not only is he pissed because he figured out Walt poisoned Brock, but on top of that he manipulated Jesse into thinking it was his own fault that it happened
Jesse shot that down immediately, because he knew he had the magic cigarette that morning and hadn't seen Brock in the meantime. Walt then suggested that Gus's henchman lifted it at the lab that morning. Making Jesse think he screwed up wouldn't have been any help in getting him to turn against Gus, but Walt had to suggest it first because it's the simplest explanation. Walt was just really lucky that the timing of events worked in his favor and that Jesse actually had been at the lab that morning and couldn't account for the whereabouts of the cig the whole time.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 4:40 pm to SEClint
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If people paid closer attention they'd understand this.
Holy shite, it's like talking to a brick wall with some of you. I knew what happened. I have watched the show and pay attention to it. It is a stretch and it was a bit confusing at first for a lot of people. In 3 seconds of Jesse looking for his dope, he figured out everything. Ok, fine. It was a bit of a reach to move the story forward, but it was cool and it's tied together. That's all I'm saying. It's not that big of a deal.
I love how some of you try to question people's "fandom" and attention span
You guys are the bestest fans
Posted on 8/26/13 at 4:43 pm to CAD703X
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jesse was lead to believe HE lost the ricin cig and brock got sick because of it..but when he couldn't find it that didn't add up to him.
suddenly it reappeared when walt showed up?
Totally agreed. I thought it was a little weak that Jesse would fall for it. Walt was so obvious when they mysteriously searched and found the cig. But now that same Jesse just figured everything out in a couple of seconds of looking for weed. I think that's what people were saying, a bit of a reach to figure it all out so fast.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 5:50 pm to CAD703X
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- saul just admitted to jesse walt had him steal the ricin cig from the pack.
Before Saul admitted is what people were questioning. Of course, now that Saul admitted Jesse knows. But while he was looking for his weed, he figured it all out before he asked Saul. THAT'S the stretch.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 6:32 pm to Sho Nuff
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But while he was looking for his weed, he figured it all out before he asked Saul. THAT'S the stretch.
It's not that huge a stretch considering that Jesse immediately suspected Huel lifted the cigarette at Walt's behest to poison Brock and put a gun to his head over it. Walt was able to talk him out of that and pin the blame on Gus, but Jesse's been doubting Walt all along, because ricin wasn't used to poison Brock, Walt conveniently found the missing cig in the Roomba, when Jesse knew that could not have been where it ended up per the reason given in my prior message, and because Walt's protestations that "he'd never hurt a child, but Gus would" fell flat with what happened in the desert and Walt "whistling while he works" afterwards. So now Jesse finds his pocket picked again after tussling with Huel, with Walt again being the one to benefit from it. It's not a stretch at all that he finally knew; just a couple hours earlier, he had melted down again and begged Walt to stop lying and admit his real motivations, and Walt responded by hugging him, so the distrust was all very much fresh in his mind as he was waiting to disappear to Alaska so Heisenberg wouldn't have to kill him.
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