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re: 5 games, total 4 runs given up by UCLA in the CWS!!!!

Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:49 am to
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24577 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:49 am to
LSU will win the AP crown and it will be a split title
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8273 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 5:58 am to
I think a lot of people underestimate CWS experience. Both UNC and UCLA have been to Omaha a lot in the recent years, and it showed especially for UCLA. They didn't get rattled under pressure and their pitching was very good. Sure Plutko used the ball park to his advantage. If a normal stadium was used LSU probably beats UCLA 5-2 on the warning track outs being homers, but UCLA played smartly and didn't allow the ball park to beat them. This was the first trip to the new park for PM and LSU had no Omaha experience to draw from.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:01 am to
How could the national polls be so wrong ranking the top teams this year? Or is baseball completely impossible to rank? Did anyone see Miss St and UCLA in the Championship game?
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6545 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:32 am to
It's ranked on talent and W's, but it's Championship is won on HBP's, safety squeezes, and unearned runs.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:34 am to
The best team wouldn't have fricked up 2 days in a row on the biggest stage.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 6:44 am to
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5 games, total 4 runs given up by UCLA in the CWS!!!!

How is that possible? I know the park doesn't carry the ball, but this is still unfrigginbelievable!


UCLA had great pitching and apparently had great scouting on their opponent's hitters. They were able to coax fly ball after fly ball out of both LSU and MSU (the two teams I watched them play).

They were the beneficiaries (or were able to put the pressure on to induce) errors, hit by pitches, etc. by their opponents.

There was a helping of luck in there. Or maybe again they had scouted well - there were lots of hard hit balls by opponents but the UCLA defenders were right there to get them.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29275 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:27 am to
quote:

total 4 runs given up by UCLA in the CWS!!!!




Easy....they were the best pitching and best defensive team in the tournament. It also pays to mention that they were the best team at producing offense in clutch situations as well.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60236 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:37 am to
I just...I really don't know what to say. Purposefully throwing balls to be hammered isn't great pitching.
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
648 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 7:39 am to
Great pitching always beats great hitting. I'm always reminded of the 2001 World Series. The Diamondback lineup was no match at all for the Yankee lineup. The Yankees were better hitters for average and better power hitters, and it was not close. But, Curt Schilling and Randy Johnson were on their game in that series. The 4 games they pitched (including game 7 where both pitched), Arizona won. When they sat, the Yankees won.

You give me a team that gives up 4 runs in 5 games and i'll give you every power hitting team you want because my team will win, especially in a double elimination format.

And as far as the people claiming that LSU was the best team, you are the fans that give the rest of us a bad name. They played 2 games in Omaha. They couldn't get the job done. Greatness comes from oppurtunity, and LSU had an oppurtunity to achieve greatness and failed. It is what it is.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29275 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Purposefully throwing balls to be hammered isn't great pitching.


They were throwing those pitches to purposefully produce lazy fly balls and create outs....which is what happened which is great pitching.
Posted by s_i5
Earth
Member since Jul 2004
2020 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 12:21 am to
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If LSU was the best team, they'd have beaten ucla. Fact is, they made critical defensive errors. ucla didn't, and the bRuins made LSU pay.

The best teams win championships, and as much as ucla winning anything makes me want to vomit, they were the "best team."

No matter how talented you are, if you don't execute when it counts, you aren't the best.



What's up LAT? He was being facetious.
Posted by s_i5
Earth
Member since Jul 2004
2020 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 12:25 am to
quote:

Easy....they were the best pitching and best defensive team in the tournament. It also pays to mention that they were the best team at producing offense in clutch situations as well.



Not easy. Everyone is focused on not being able to hit HRs in that park with these bats...and balls. I understand that it sucks. Regardless, 4 runs in 5 CWS games still crazy.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 12:51 am to
If LSU doesn't commit two horrible errors, they win 1-0.

UCLA was the 5th best team LSU played this year at best.

Congrats to them though. They are the champs.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13134 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:07 am to
Sup mang. I was rooting hard for LSU to shred the bRuins. Can't stand those fox ticks winning anything. Annoying little powder blue fairies.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
163964 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:10 am to
quote:

Great pitching always beats great hitting. I'm always reminded of the 2001 World Series. The Diamondback lineup was no match at all for the Yankee lineup. The Yankees were better hitters for average and better power hitters, and it was not close. But, Curt Schilling and Randy Johnson were on their game in that series. The 4 games they pitched (including game 7 where both pitched), Arizona won. When they sat, the Yankees won.

Not that great of an example because if the greatest closer of all time doesn't blow the game 7 save.. The Yankees win.
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7329 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:43 am to
Didn't see it but UCLA also threw a shutout against CSF the last game of the regionals as well. I don't give a shite who you are but at this level a team that can do that gets the nod from me.
Posted by s_i5
Earth
Member since Jul 2004
2020 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

If LSU doesn't commit two horrible errors, they win 1-0.

UCLA was the 5th best team LSU played this year at best.

Congrats to them though. They are the champs.


If you weren't an idiot, you'd have some sense.
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