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Can I be forced to invest in a retirement plan?

Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:30 pm
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47365 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:30 pm
Today, my part time employer said my next paycheck would include a deduction to the PERS organization. No reasons, no explanation, no anything. Can they do this?

I have a Roth IRA and invest in this. This is all I want. Can my employer force this on me?
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:33 pm to
What does your Employment Contract say?
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47365 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

What does your Employment Contract say?


It has nothing regarding this language. My main job is teaching, I do this (Aquatics Management) as my part time and am paid by the county. My contract suggests I am not obligated to be in this program at all.
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4180 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:41 pm to
Sure, it's called social security.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47365 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 6:49 pm to
I am not talking about SS. That already comes out of the check.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:31 pm to
Did your hours go up since its the summer?

That might have automatically required your entry into it.

Just a thought I had. Is it a good plan?
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 7:44 pm to
i've never heard of anyone being forced to invest in a workplace 401k plan. it's generally a benefit of the company, not a requirement of employment.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47365 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Did your hours go up since its the summer?


I am strictly part-time - 20 hours a week.

quote:

Is it a good plan?


PERS is known as a top plan for Mississippi employees. But, since there is no employee contribution, it is useless to me since I have a ROTH IRA and already have a financial advisor.
Posted by HamSandwich
Member since Sep 2010
1447 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

Can my employer force this on me?

Yes.
quote:

Participation in PERS is mandatory for an employee in a covered position

LINK
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18183 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:14 pm to
This is America God Dam It, you can be forced to buy anything the government wants you to buy.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:14 pm to
If you don't have to contribute to it but are enrolled automatically what's the issue here?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 8:28 pm to
Will you be able to get benefits from it? Why complain if you are?
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 10:14 pm to
I thought employees of the state of Mississippi had a mandatory 9.25% (?) contribution to the state pension fund. And the state contributes 14.5% (?).

Anyone here a state employee?
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47365 posts
Posted on 6/25/13 at 10:47 pm to
I don't understand. If this is required, why was this not done last year when I started working there? Is there a required, set amount I have to contribute?
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 4:48 am to
If you have to contribute to it, is it before tax? If so and they are matching, why not take it? It's free money.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28275 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 9:04 am to
When I worked a state job years ago we didn't pay SS but we were forced to pay into a 403(b) administered by TIAA-CREF.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 6/26/13 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I don't understand. If this is required, why was this not done last year when I started working there? Is there a required, set amount I have to contribute?


Since PERS is a defines benefit plan, I suspect that your contribution is up to your employer.

Did something change with respect to your employment status with the county? Were you a contract employee when you started?
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