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re: Nets preparing trade offer for Dwight Howard

Posted on 1/22/13 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32379 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 4:16 pm to
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shut themselves out of the LB hunt in 2014.



They are and never will be in this hunt..
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5411 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 4:21 pm to
I think Dwight will actually resign with them after this year. Walking away from LA leaves $30mm on the table, that's awfully hard to walk away from.

Ultimately, the Lakers need to move Pau or Dwight, they can't co-exist IMO. Obviously moving Dwight would net a higher return, so I'd lean towards moving him. I think the scenario you pointed out would work out really well for LA (Smith to LA) if they can somehow get assurance that Smith would resign with them
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27419 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 4:29 pm to
My thinking was that it would also save the Lakers a ton of money this year. Seeing as they aren't going anywhere this year and this group together has been below even mediocre.

Dwight makes about 6.5 more in salary than Smith.

Could be a good salary dump. Obviously other pieces have to be involved to make the trade work.

ETA: Teletovic, Lopez to Atlanta; Howard to Brooklyn works on the dreaded Trade Machine
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 4:31 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44537 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 4:52 pm to
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Hard to find many 18 and 8 24-year-old centers who block 2 shots a game to go along with good percentages from the floor and line.



this is true. probably just jaded by one guy (Joe Johnson) taking up most of the cap room for yrs and never being a superstar or allowing money to go grab anyone else.

of course, I don't really see anyone out there to take the Hawks money anyway, so that may not happen.

quote:

Hollinger always would rave about what Horford could do if he actually played his "natural" position, power forward. This would allow the Hawks to move Horford to the 4.



yeah, he'd be better as a 4, and he and Lopez would compliment each other well. team would be more boring, but probably more efficient.

and yet still, no superstar.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 5:04 pm to
Here we go again. This time around, I'm gonna enjoy it

I could see Dwight leaving L.A. (and $30 million) because he doesn't want to be second fiddle to Kobe for several more years. He hates how Kobe puts up 30 shots/game, while he isn't anywhere close to that.

I don't think the Lakers would trade him (expecting him to sign long term this summer), but if they don't like his vibe, this could get interesting.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83330 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 6:34 pm to
Lakers are going to be a mess for the next few years. They have a shite ton of cap issues and bad contracts with old as frick players.

And lets not even talk about the disaster that is known as Mike D'Antoni
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 6:41 pm to
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The Lakers need to start getting Dwight more involved with the offense,



Dwight is the problem with the Lakers this year.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 6:43 pm to
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Dwight is the problem with the Lakers this year.






sure he is
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33000 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 8:43 pm to
He's not the problem, but he is a problem.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73123 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 8:45 pm to
If Phil was coaching they would be in first place with Twin Towers
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:16 pm to
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sure he is



Dwight was supposed to protect the rim, he can't. Dwight FT shooting has cost them games, and he's taking touches away from a more talented offensive player.

Again, Dwight is the problem with the Lakers.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45565 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:20 pm to
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Could the Hawks have interest?


As poopy-pants as Smoove has been I'd be up for trading him away before he walks next summer
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36397 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:23 pm to
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Dwight is the problem with the Lakers this year.


Kobe is a lock for DPOY. No one else has been able to shut down Dwight like he does
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 10:23 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:48 pm to
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My thinking was that it would also save the Lakers a ton of money this year.


I don't know if they care. The issue with Dwight is, if he goes to a team that has the cap space to sign him outright (Atlanta), Lakers are fricked. They've got $78m in cap space without Howard, so if he leaves without their getting anything in return, they'll be even worse next season, which I'd love to see. And with all this talk of a Pau trade, I really don't know if they can get much of value for him. I know he's being misused, but I'm sure age has a big part in his decline as well. He's not close to being a $19m player.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:58 pm to
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I'm sure age has a big part in his decline as well. He's not close to being a $19m player.



true, but he sure killed in the Olympics last summer.

Howard's back has taken him down a notch. He may never be the same player, and imo elite athleticism, not his skill set, is what made him great.
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33000 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:11 pm to
Double post
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 11:12 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145036 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:12 pm to
i saw this coming. damn
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145036 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:14 pm to
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The Lakers need to start getting Dwight more involved with the offense
he needs to A) stop turning the ball over and B) start finishing at the rim. he gets the ball in the low post but continues to try to do 5 foot fadeaways/hooks across the key.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:17 pm to
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Double post



not really.
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