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re: AAPL, AMZN earnings...

Posted on 10/26/12 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 10/26/12 at 5:40 pm to
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my first post addressed the puzzlement so many people have concerning Amazon, namely the ever-rising share price in the face of low profits



You didn't address it. You just repeated a line to try to correlate earnings to stock price. If you don't understand how they aren't always related, I can't help you.


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My second post addressed the concern so many people have over the fate of Amazon's already razor-thin margins once states start collecting sales tax on a wider basis.



haha, right.


Exactly right. You can't deny what is plainly true. Well, I guess you can, but it just makes you look like a loon.

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I correctly ascertained that you own Amazon



Since my first post in this thread was me crying about the amzn earnings, I don't know how I hid that from anyone...



I didn't see the post where you were crying; I replied to the original post in the thread, and my post appeared on the second page, which is what I've been following. I figured you out solely from reading your bullshite on the second page. Now tell me, what led you to call me an "Apple fanboi" [sic] twice? Is it simply that you enjoy making stuff up when it suits you?

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you've gone and made yourself out to be the "defender of truth" or something. Psychopath much?

I love that title "defender of truth." It fits quite well with what I have done on this board, if you read my post history.


I'm not looking up your post history. My impression of you from your behavior in this thread is, psychopath not much, but always. You haven proven yourself to be a "distorter of the truth" and a fabricator.

About your crying... If you were normal, today you would have stopped crying and been dancing in the streets instead of starting a fight here. If you were intelligent, you would have considered this day a gift and taken some profits, assuming you have some and didn't buy near the all-time high, which is a big assumption.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 10/26/12 at 5:50 pm to
Dude, just go away if you have nothing to add.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 10/26/12 at 5:55 pm to
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Amazon is getting to the point where its almost rare to have a really decent deal there vs locally. The price margin just isnt as big as it used to be. If they start charging sales tax then there isnt much use to use them for goods.


Which is what I hit on in my second post. Amazon will lose a huge amount of luster if it sales tax advantage goes away, which seems more likely every year with all the state and local budget crises and basically no one following the use tax rules. Moreover, Best Buy serving as Amazon's showroom never has been fair and is arguably a bad thing long term.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 10/26/12 at 5:57 pm to
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Dude, just go away if you have nothing to add.


Ouch. Bought near the all-time high, didn't you?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 10/26/12 at 6:08 pm to
Up about 25%. But I'd have been much better off if I'd stayed in Aapl. Sorry for calling you a fanboy as I saw your post following the last post on the previous page and thought you were following that line of thinking trying to compare the response to both. Still think its misleading to ignore revenue growth if you know anything about what AMZN is trying to build.
Posted by Gujam8
Member since Jun 2010
2361 posts
Posted on 10/26/12 at 7:24 pm to
Can someone tell me why AMZN was up big today after reporting a loss and missing both bottom and top line numbers?

AMZN trades at over 35 times earnings, doesn't have profits and growth as AAPL (which trades around 10X) and yet we saw AAPL down and AMZN up today.

AAPL is still an attractive buy at this price point...I'm staying away from AMZN.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 10/28/12 at 2:43 pm to
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AMZN trades at over 35 times earnings


Where'd you get that low number? For a long time it's been between 100x-300x, and now it's trading at almost 3000x. That's three THOUSAND times earnings:

LINK

The players backing Amazon continually believe Amazon is just a couple of years away from taking over the world; it's treated like a dotcom startup even though it's what, 16 years old now? I don't understand it, especially with the specter of collecting sales tax on the horizon, which won't be good for their mail order business. Besides the store, Amazon is a cloud provider, so there's that. They also do streaming. Then there are the Kindles, which they sell at cost or at a loss. The readers are OK; I saw the PaperWhite at Best Buy today, and while its lighting system is far superior to the Nook SimpleTouch's Glow Light, it was clear why a lot of people are giving it lukewarm or worse reviews. The Kindle tablets are at best mediocre, same as the Nook tablet. I don't understand why anyone would buy them over competing tablets, unless price were a big factor, and if it is, how are they going to make up the loss on the hardware with selling books and stuff?

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AAPL is still an attractive buy at this price point...


I think Apple's worth nibbling on at this level. I figure the analyst clamor for The Next Big Product will be subdued through the first half of next year. I think it'll hit $700 again in that time, maybe more. Just watch out if they don't have a new product a year from now.
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