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re: Here is a good article on Ebola

Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:31 pm to
Oh, I do. Just wondering if it were transmitted in a similar fashion as the flu. My friend's husband is going to the Dr tomorrow but went to the store today to get meds. Pissed me off. Statistically, it's probably just the flu. However, anyone who has been in a high risk area recently should self quarantine & go to the Dr immediately. Wonder if this Dallas guy sneezed all over things in Dallas before he couldn't walk around any more.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:31 pm to
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As I asked in your other thread: If a person sneezes on, say, a shopping cart handle and you use the cart next then wipe your eyes, or your baby sucks his thumb or whatever, could the virus be transferred that way?
100%.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:38 pm to
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Consider your nonchalance juxtaposed with the number of fever work-ups your Uncle will perform in the next month alone. Will he be wearing a SpaceSuit when he conducts those? Will his nurses? With no consistent policy for quarantining foreign arrivals, every one of those work-ups has the potential to kill your Uncle.


I m sure he will follow the standard protocols that have keep him from catching most epidemics that have come through the ER in the last 25 years. He probably will wear a safety equipment if someone comes in with ebola symptoms.

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The dismissive bullshite regarding a disease as virulent as Ebola is breathtaking.

just because I am not freaking out and saying we should lock everyone up in isolation for a month does not mean I am dismissive.
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The disregard of standard quarantine public protections,

if ppl are symptomatic they are quarantined.

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Nonetheless it is a damn serious disease.


It is a damn serious disease but quarantine everyone from africa or ppl who have been to africa for a month is not a reasonable solution. Public awareness of the symptoms and prevention methods and knowledge of what you should do if you think you have symptoms, those are reasonable solutions.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:49 pm to
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Oh, I do. Just wondering if it were transmitted in a similar fashion as the flu. My friend's husband is going to the Dr tomorrow but went to the store today to get meds. Pissed me off. Statistically, it's probably just the flu. However, anyone who has been in a high risk area recently should self quarantine & go to the Dr immediately. Wonder if this Dallas guy sneezed all over things in Dallas before he couldn't walk around any more.


If your friend's husband has been in a high risk area and has these symptoms
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Fever
? Headache
? Diarrhea
? Vomiting
? Stomach pain
? Unexplained bleeding
or bruising
?Muscle pain

I would be worried and would avoid the shite out of them.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:51 pm to
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He probably will wear a safety equipment if someone comes in with ebola symptoms.
You know what weewee, you're right. If a dude staggers in looking the part of a sweating febrile zombie wearing an "I Am Infected With Ebola" warning pin on his chest, your Uncle will probably wear appropriately protective clothing
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The disregard of standard quarantine public protections,

if ppl are symptomatic they are quarantined.
has nothing to do with standard of practice.
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but quarantine everyone from africa or ppl who have been to africa for a month is not a reasonable solution
Africa is a continent. Liberia is not. Ebola is not spread throughout the entire continent of Africa.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51892 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:53 pm to
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Consider why US ordered 160k Ebola suits a month ago. And why against all iD protocol they would allow travel to infected nations and bring infected people here. This one is hiding in plain view.


Just to let you know: you use a lot of credibility when you use phrases like "Ebola suits."
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:56 pm to
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Africa is a continent. Liberia is not. Ebola is not spread throughout the entire continent of Africa.


I know that and that is one reason why I am laughing at some of my friends on fb saying we should quarantine everyone who has been to Africa.

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You know what weewee, you're right. If a dude staggers in looking the part of a sweating febrile zombie wearing an "I Am Infected With Ebola" warning pin on his chest, your Uncle will probably wear appropriately protective clothing


If they suspect ebola they use this LINK
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51892 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:05 pm to
It is unknown if it is truly airborne.

What is known that it isn't as lethal as Preston insinuated. The lethality was from viral coinfection with SHV. If you infect a monkey with Reston, he probably will live.



I think part of it is simply based off of how viruses work. If you infect respatory tissue, that is a different pathology from a systemic infection.


This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 10:09 pm
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8274 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:18 pm to
According to some articles I've read on the subject although it's possible to have Ebola Zaire (or any of the 5 strains) mutate to spread in airborne form it seems extremely unlikely. According to these infectious disease experts none of the 23 serious disease causing viruses has ever changed method of transportation, and if a viral ailment went airborne it would likely exchange lethality. On the same token hiv has ravaged much of the world and has yet to mutate transportation form. I would think a lethal strain of flu would be a bigger pandemic worry similar to the Spanish flu of 1919. Even that pandemic became milder the longer it lasted, although it killed a staggering amount of healthy aged people.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:21 pm to
This is so frustrating. My question is that isn't Ebola spread in a similar fashion as the flu such as contamination from sneezing, coughs, etc?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:40 pm to
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This is so frustrating. My question is that isn't Ebola spread in a similar fashion as the flu such as contamination from sneezing, coughs, etc?
no the flu (depending on strand) is spread by contact and aerosol. Ebola like HIV is spread through contaminated fluids.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:55 pm to
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LSUGrrrl


I know it is frustrating when you can't get your ?s answered and I hope your friends husband is ok. However, if he was in a "hot zone" he should have gone straight to ER IMO.

I hope this helps answer your question:
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bola isn’t as contagious as more common viruses like colds, influenza, or measles. It spreads to people by contact with the skin or bodily fluids of an infected animal, like a monkey, chimp, or fruit bat. Then it moves from person to person the same way. Those who care for a sick person or bury someone who has died from the disease often get it.

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You can’t get Ebola from air, water, or food. A person who has Ebola but has no symptoms can’t spread the disease, either.

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Early on, Ebola can feel like the flu or other illnesses. Symptoms show up 2 to 21 days after infection and usually include:

High fever
Headache
Joint and muscle aches
Sore throat
Weakness
Stomach pain
Lack of appetite
As the disease gets worse, it causes bleeding inside the body, as well as from the eyes, ears, and nose. Some people will vomit or cough up blood, have bloody diarrhea, and get a rash.

LINK
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:59 pm to
Thank you. Honestly, I think he's probably fine. He says he thinks he has the flu but, headache & body aches aside, congestion is his biggest issue. I just got irritated bc I agree with you and believe he should have straight to the Dr after landing. Oh well, still not hugging her or giving her high fives after a sweaty day of tennis.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:01 pm to
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only four days after he knew he had helped care for a woman who died of Ebola.

And he was allowed on a plane and back into the country. Why? This is a national security issue. Obama needs to quit buttfricking reggie love and lock this shite down. And this dumbass needs to face some repercussions for being an idiot and putting his family and country at risk. Feel for the people on the plane that circulated air with his arse. They say it's not airborne but it sure as shite seems easy to catch.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8274 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:06 pm to
It's extremely reckless at best that this Liberian citizen decided to come to America after helping carry a dying Ebola victim to the hospital in Africa. How could he not know exactly when he got the onset of fever what he might have? He and his family that harbors him deserve to be permanently expelled from the us should he recover.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:13 pm to
How do ya think the idiot got it?
How would he have gotten it by handling that girl?
No fluid exchanged, right?
I'm kind of confused about that.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:14 pm to
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And he was allowed on a plane and back into the country. Why? This is a national security issue. Obama needs to quit buttfricking reggie love and lock this shite down. And this dumbass needs to face some repercussions for being an idiot and putting his family and country at risk. Feel for the people on the plane that circulated air with his arse. They say it's not airborne but it sure as shite seems easy to catch.
He didn't have symptoms on the plane, see one post above where it states asymptomatic patients can't spread it.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 11:15 pm
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8274 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:19 pm to
I'm sure carrying a sweating, vomiting, possibly bleeding woman in the last hours of an Ebola infection would constitute "direct contact". It's actually somewhat reassuring this guy has a direct link to a case like this versus some American in west Africa on business with no idea where he contracted it. This Liberian needs to be punished for recklessly endangering American citizens though.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:20 pm to
I think he came here for the medical care in case he got sick.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:24 pm to
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He probably will wear a safety equipment if someone comes in with ebola symptoms.

Pussy! He's probably the same kinda sissy that wears gloves for rectal exams.
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