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re: Crash at Burbank and E. Boyd

Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:30 pm to
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This is not about turning left onto boyd from burbank. The hazard comes from people taking lefts onto burbank from boyd or going straight across burbank. You do realize that, right?


Does that not apply to what I said? And yes, turning left from Boyd onto Burbank was the situation I was describing.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:30 pm to
It would have been easier and solved the collision issue but it would not have been as beneficial to Burbank traffic efficiency. The idea behind getting rid of the light and make boyd right turn only was to both improve burbank traffic flow and eliminate hazard due to left turns.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:32 pm to
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Wouldn't it have been much easier to just add a left turn arrow to the existing signal?


I dunno. Who's doing the signal phasing?

I doubt it's all that easy to just throw an extra light cycle into the mix without creating a cluster somewhere in the near vicinity, and it's also not cheap.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:34 pm to
The situation you described specifically said that a left turn would involve only crossing 2 lanes. It actually involves crossing 4 lanes (2 in each direction) plus a turning lane in each direction, so 5 lanes total.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:37 pm to
You're just fricking with me, right?

My point is you only need to make it safely to the center turn lane, and then from there can get into the direction you want to travel when possible. Without a center turn lane, you have to worry about the first two lanes as well as at least one lane of the direction you want to go.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:39 pm to
The center turn lane is for traffic going in the opposite direction! You can't take a left and get into the turning lane, unless you'd like to hit a car head-on. LOL
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:40 pm to
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The center turn lane is for traffic going in the opposite direction! You can't take a left and get into the turning lane, unless you'd like to hit a car head-on. LOL


I wasn't limiting this to just at Boyd, I was thinking more at Milford. Another miscommunication, this one obviously on me.
Posted by Mac
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:42 pm to
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And my opinion has changed where?


So even though you prefer the old set up you'd rather they leave it a two way stop?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:42 pm to
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So even though you prefer the old set up you'd rather they leave it a two way stop?


I think you've confused yourself.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:43 pm to
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My point is you only need to make it safely to the center turn lane, and then from there can get into the direction you want to travel when possible. Without a center turn lane, you have to worry about the first two lanes as well as at least one lane of the direction you want to go.




Good point.
Counter point, people are fricking stupid. Especially Louisiana drivers. If there is no light, they should have just left it as a right turn only. Now, Boyd gets backed up as hell because people are taking hours to attempt to turn left.

I am very glad I moved away from that side of campus and into the garden district.
Posted by Mac
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:46 pm to
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quote:

Would you rather the city leave the intersection as is?


At this point, yes.



quote:

I much prefer it to the old setup



Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:48 pm to
I bet you did really well with reading comprehension.
Posted by Mac
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:50 pm to
frick, you're right. I read that as "I'd much preferred the old setup."

With that said, I still think you're a dumbass for preferring the current setup.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:51 pm to
I see what you mean by that. Like I use the turning lane to get into traffic when I take a left onto burbank from Milford or out of the Mellow parking lot.

Unfortunately, that would never be able to happen at E Boyd and Burbank due to all four directions of the intersection being so populated.

I think the right turn only solution was the best solution for most people, so hopefully they at least go back to that. Just annoying to e boyders
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:51 pm to
You'll forgive me for not really caring if you think I'm a dumbass after that little display.
Posted by Mac
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:52 pm to
K
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:52 pm to
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I think the right turn only solution was the best solution for most people, so hopefully they at least go back to that.


Yea, I agree with this, and I don't really understand why they got rid of that.
Posted by MrSmith
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:41 pm to
It was only a matter of time.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:59 pm to
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Wouldn't it have been much easier to just add a left turn arrow to the existing signal?
If you add the arrow, you either need to add a turn lane or split the phasing between the two approaches. That means that one approach gets a green ball and a green arrow until the light turns red. Then the opposing approach gets the same indicators. This just increases the overall cycle length, so traffic on the main line has to sit longer.
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