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re: Kid on bike's throat slashed by boobie trap, set up to "keep kids out" of alley.

Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:36 am to
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:36 am to
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It doesn't really matter if private property or not. It doesn't matter if trespassing or not. Booby traps on your own land with the intent to kill/harm other humans are illegal.



Exactly.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:37 am to
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Apparently they didn't appreciate people motorcycle riding behind their church so they put up a bit of clear coated wire across the paved entrance to the trails.


That actually does sound like they were setting a trap. That's some murderous shite. Not very good christians at all.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:38 am to


Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:40 am to
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That actually does sound like they were setting a trap. That's some murderous shite. Not very good christians at all.


It was, all the neighbors got together because some of their kids rode back there too. We tried to build a case against the church, but we just couldn't get definitive proof it was them. We knew they were not happy with it and that certain members were hostile to us, but just couldn't get the connection made and the lawyer we were talking with pretty much said we wouldn't get anywhere. I really didn't lose that much money on medical bills and such, no damage to the bike, but I wanted to nail those assholes, just couldn't do it.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:41 am to
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It doesn't really matter if private property or not. It doesn't matter if trespassing or not. Booby traps on your own land with the intent to kill/harm other humans are illegal.


Oh yeah. It was just an almost semantics point really. From my understanding the neighbor is liable to some degree. I just also think there's room to doubt that this was actually a "booby trap" with intent to harm. Like I said, it just sounds like a poorly conceived rope fence.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:46 am to
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Booby traps on your own land with the intent to kill/harm other humans are illegal.
Unfortunate.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:46 am to
I am not a lawyer but I don't believe you can adjudicate away negligence. Someone could always say it was by mistake they trespassed and should be allowed the benefit of the doubt. The law is very much in favor of innocent until proven guilty. Well that is unless you are in Louisiana.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:48 am to
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The law is very much in favor of innocent until proven guilty. Well that is unless you are in Louisiana.



And are accused of dui.


or sex with a student. at least on the OT.

Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10430 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:49 am to
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Doesn't look like it was "slashed." Why was the kid tresspassing? If the land owner didn't have a rope up to keep people out, he would also be liable if someone got hurt on his property and he did nothing to keep people off it.


That would be your position if it was your kid?

That was not an attempt to keep people out but to hurt those that rode their bike there.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:49 am to
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I don't think you should be charged with anything for putting a rope across your OWN property if it is his. It's not like he rigged a shotgun to blow

Too bad the article clearly states it wasn't his property. You're just so stupid you can't even help yourself.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10430 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:49 am to
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If anything, charge the kid with trespassing and force him to pay for rope-repair.


Troll
Weak Troll
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:54 am to
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This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 10:56 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:59 am to
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FOX 32 News asked the neighbor suspected of putting up the rope for comment. We were asked to leave her property.


Burn the sociopathic bitch's house down.
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:01 am to
If you know kids ride bikes there (even if trespassing) and you place a wire at head/neck height, you are at the least negligent and more likely a criminal with intent to cause serious bodily harm. You may remove a trespasser from your property, but you don't get to harm them - unless they refuse to leave. There are all sorts of justifiable forms of trespass; emergencies for instance. Leaving dangerous traps is not the best way to handle it.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36485 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:02 am to
It wasn't her property, she just wanted to kill a child.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:08 am to
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This happens more often than it should on bicycle and motorcycle trails.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:19 am to
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It wasn't her property, she just wanted to kill a child.


Even if it was, you can't set booby traps. Tired of door to door salesmen? Just did a hole and make a spike pit in your front yard!
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:22 am to
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Booby traps on your own land with the intent to kill/harm other humans are illegal.



fricking liberals trampling all over our god-given second amendment rights to plant traps for children. You can have my booby traps when you ply them from my cold dead hands. (And hopefully, I'll have the foresight to booby trap my hands before I die.)
Posted by DumpsterFire
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:24 am to
Sounds like a lot of people here would be ok with putting land mines or bear traps in their front yard just because it is private property.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:25 am to
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(And hopefully, I'll have the foresight to booby trap my hands before I die.)


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