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re: What am I profiting yearly after opening up a franchise of Del Taco?

Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Franchising is for people with more money than sense


I once worked for a Pizza Hut Franchise who owned 185 locations. Plenty of sense...
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8961 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:22 pm to
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I once worked for a Pizza Hut Franchise who owned 185 locations. Plenty of sense...


This is the key to making big money in restaurant franchises, those guys who really make piles of money usually have multiple locations sitting on some premium real estate.

Also a lot of people think some franchise owners make huge money. I have a neighbor who owns a very successful Chic Fil A franchise in Tampa. The place is fricking busy and he works like a Hebrew slave. I cant tell you the last time he took vacation for more than 2-3 days. He confided that his annual salary is about $150K and that his store does greater than $3 million in sales each year. This is good money but given the hours he works and the headaches even he wonders if its worth it from time to time.

If he's making $150K I can only imagine what a smaller or lesser known franchise makes.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:24 pm to
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If he's making $150K I can only imagine what a smaller or lesser known franchise makes.


Absolutely. The key is volume. If you cannot acquire 75+ locations...its not worth it.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:41 pm to
I'd talk to the Raising Cane's franchise dept and see about getting one here in CA. They'd make a killing.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 2:43 pm
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
14663 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:59 pm to
My crystal ball is foggy, the 8 ball says outcome is unclear. sorry bro.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:19 pm to
Chick Fi La's are a little different though. They take about 65% of you're profit. Most other places only take like 10%.. But Chick Fila pays to build and rent the place while the other places don't.

At least I think that's what I've read about them
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78326 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 6:19 pm to
To the three downvoters out there, I have extensive knowledge of QSR franchising . I can give you a list five pages long of ruined lives, broken marriages, fortunes lost , arsons of said business, and even suicides. If you think selling freaking tacos is the way to go for some random guy looking to make his mark you are just ignorant of the facts. It's a bloodbath out there. Just google "worst franchises" and start digging.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69047 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 6:45 pm to
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I'm considering opening up a Del Taco, but I need to know the profit I'll be making before hand.



do you have restaurant exp or is it your first franchise?

If making a quick return with little investment is the priority I would look into cleaning services like Jani-King or the like. They make a good return. I know a guy who just opened his seventh commercial cleaning store and he started out with barely anything.


As far as Del Taco, it does good, but unless your area is great and ready for it your ROI may not be what you want.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
78326 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:06 pm to
Let's see. The business climate is super tough. Profits are down. The price of labor is increasing. Fixed costs are increasing, Food costs are increasing. Regulations are driving up costs.

I got it ! I'll open a business where I pay 4-8% of my gross sales right of the top to a third party! Brilliant! Why didn't I think of this earlier!

Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28785 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:21 pm to
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You should open a Steak 'n Shake. Only one franchise currently in Louisiana. It's practically virgin territory.
That place sucks. The one in Covington has to be the worst run operation I have ever seen. It takes forever to get your food. Are all Steak and Shakes ran so poorly and what's up with ice chips in the shakes?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25529 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:53 pm to
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Let's see. The business climate is super tough. Profits are down. The price of labor is increasing. Fixed costs are increasing, Food costs are increasing. Regulations are driving up costs. I got it ! I'll open a business where I pay 4-8% of my gross sales right of the top to a third party! Brilliant! Why didn't I think of this earlier!


A down economy is the perfect time to open up a business. Why not take your lumps and pay your dues when even your competition is hurting?

Why not have a fully operational death star ready and running when the economy is full steam ahead?

All of that said... there are a million things to be concerned about with franchises. It doesn't take a lot of google searching to see how many different things are out of your control and can go wrong.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71328 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 4:12 pm to
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A down economy is the perfect time to open up a business. Why not take your lumps and pay your dues when even your competition is hurting?



If you have a war chest, that isn't a bad idea.

I doubt this guy has a sizeable war chest though.
Posted by Future_FlexZone
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
284 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 5:42 pm to
$9.75/hr at McDonalds
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25529 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:37 pm to
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If you have a war chest, that isn't a bad idea.


The most fully funded/capitalized businesses are not always the most successful.

You'd be surprised what kind of good habits and profitable work ethics are formed by starting a business when business is tight everywhere (as opposed to the other way around).
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27651 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:56 pm to
a few thoughts

1. steak and shake sucks balls. ive never met a soul who has eaten there

2. taco joints are the new thing and there is now one on every corner. del taco is nothing special.

3. just open a subway or firehouse subs. sandwiches will never go away.

4. I know a guy who bought a Twin Peaks. said he makes 40% margin on all food and drinks which is unheard of. made his investment back in 18 months and freaking rakes in the dough
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9176 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:55 pm to
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I got it ! I'll open a business where I pay 4-8% of my gross sales right of the top to a third party! Brilliant! Why didn't I think of this earlier!



Or put another way, let me give a 3rd party all my potential profit. Food service industry is tough from staffing on up, no way would I want to invest in that. shite, large stakeholders are bitching about the level of free breadsticks to Olive Garden customers.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78326 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 9:30 am to
Right now in offices all across America there are struggling franchisors , strapped for cash, figuring out new ways to entice franchisees, to write six figure checks to keep their sinking ships afloat for another year. People have no idea how essentially Ponzi-schemish the whole industry is. And the fact that 20 "good" franchises spawn 200 "bad" franchises.

Unimaginative people are seduced by the idea that "hey why would everybody invest if they weren't making money", completely oblivious to the risk.

If you can't afford to lose your entire investment AND the time you invest , you should not even consider it.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
17993 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 11:09 am to
LsuPimp is right.

Its a tough, tough climate out there.

About five years ago, I invested in a 20% share of a frozen yogurt franchise. This was going to be all the rage. and it was for about a year.

Then 11 others opened up. I ended up losing $25k, and luckily was able to get out of it rather painfully. The main shareholder lost everything he had, declared bankruptcy, and nearly lost his marriage.

Profit margin was really high, but couldn't keep good help. Guy ended up having to quit his insurance job to run the thing day to day.

Went from grossing about $1500/day to under $400/day in six months time. Took about $600/day to break even. But the franchisor got paid first - before any rent, any vendors any employees, etc.

This post was edited on 10/3/14 at 11:10 am
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