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Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:56 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
I always kinda wanted to be a lumberjack.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:56 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Survey Crew?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:57 pm to Hammertime
That's the problem contracts are becoming harder to find in CENLA. It's tough for the mom and pop crews.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:59 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
I updated my last post on the bottom of page 1 with solid advice.
I personally think pine trees suck. Even when we were making gobs of money off of poles, I hated it. Way too monotonous, and doesn't require any skill, so it gets boring.
IIRC, the guys who drive trucks make less than the loggers. You also have to factor in the retarded amount of tickets you'll get. My old boss helped develop Harvest Haul, but I never asked him how much those drivers made.
I personally think pine trees suck. Even when we were making gobs of money off of poles, I hated it. Way too monotonous, and doesn't require any skill, so it gets boring.
IIRC, the guys who drive trucks make less than the loggers. You also have to factor in the retarded amount of tickets you'll get. My old boss helped develop Harvest Haul, but I never asked him how much those drivers made.
quote:We had loggers lined up asking for us to give them work. They were also scared to frick up because we would dump them if they did. We were only a few foresters, but the scheduling that my boss did allowed almost all of our loggers to work throughout the year(farmer/loggers only worked when they didn't have to farm). The company was extremely well run being that we were just a bunch of retards that liked walking around in the woods. In a couple of years, my boss went from nothing to the biggest hardwood timber company in LA, MS, AR, and TN
dpark
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 5:31 pm to Hammertime
Didn't you go back for a forestry engineering degree? Or did you switch to one of those mainstream engineering gigs?
I've been thinking about picking up a forestry minor but it just doesn't seem like it'll be worth it coming out my pocket. I'd enjoy it but if the pay is as bad as you make it sound there's just no way I could justify it
I've been thinking about picking up a forestry minor but it just doesn't seem like it'll be worth it coming out my pocket. I'd enjoy it but if the pay is as bad as you make it sound there's just no way I could justify it
Posted on 9/23/14 at 5:44 pm to Lightnin Hopkins
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I've been thinking about picking up a forestry minor but it just doesn't seem like it'll be worth it coming out my pocket. I'd enjoy it but if the pay is as bad as you make it sound there's just no way I could justify it
With the right company the pay isn't bad.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:09 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Open a specialty meats place, clean and process deer and get one of your cattle buddies to finish some cows for butcher and get it cheap. Can make a decent cent with the deer and selling local beef. If you have any friends that crawfish cut out the middle man and get straight from them.
That or go be a green jean like I said awhile back.
That or go be a green jean like I said awhile back.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:25 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:if I find a new job it'll be out of law enforcement unless its something really cool like Livestock and Brand Commission
Green jean
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:29 pm to Lightnin Hopkins
The only place close that does a full forest engineering degree is Auburn, and out-of-state tuition is like $42k per year. I would've only had to take 20 or so hours, but I'd be $42k in debt and have a very specialized engineering degree.
I'm doing ME at UNO, which costs me $6k per year, and I only have a year and a half left if I pass all of my classes. I can do everything and more with a ME degree, and I have a full forestry degree to compliment that, so if I were to go back, I'd be in higher demand anyway.
From what I have been hearing, the industry has begun paying people much more than what I was getting paid. I got paid $27k/yr and talked to a kid who got a job with ROM a few months back that gets paid $55k/yr(he has a forestry degree and an MBA).
The lab classes are definitely awesome. I wasn't ever bored, even with most of the regular classes. If anything, it breaks up the monotony of a boring day. I could see it being worth it if you also had a business or ag business degree(econ being the best). Job searching will definitely be hard, but with that combo, you should be able to get on with a TIMO like Hancock, or even managing money with a timber company.
Companies looking for pine tree foresters look at LSU. companies looking for hardwood foresters look at La Tech. I was one of the very few that got a job, but everyone I know that did had to bust their arse to get it, and didn't get paid much starting out. I was one of the even fewer that got a job working with mainly hardwoods, and I got to stay in the state. I got mine by cold calling and showing up to companies because no one was advertising own positions at the time.
What is your major now?
I'm doing ME at UNO, which costs me $6k per year, and I only have a year and a half left if I pass all of my classes. I can do everything and more with a ME degree, and I have a full forestry degree to compliment that, so if I were to go back, I'd be in higher demand anyway.
From what I have been hearing, the industry has begun paying people much more than what I was getting paid. I got paid $27k/yr and talked to a kid who got a job with ROM a few months back that gets paid $55k/yr(he has a forestry degree and an MBA).
The lab classes are definitely awesome. I wasn't ever bored, even with most of the regular classes. If anything, it breaks up the monotony of a boring day. I could see it being worth it if you also had a business or ag business degree(econ being the best). Job searching will definitely be hard, but with that combo, you should be able to get on with a TIMO like Hancock, or even managing money with a timber company.
Companies looking for pine tree foresters look at LSU. companies looking for hardwood foresters look at La Tech. I was one of the very few that got a job, but everyone I know that did had to bust their arse to get it, and didn't get paid much starting out. I was one of the even fewer that got a job working with mainly hardwoods, and I got to stay in the state. I got mine by cold calling and showing up to companies because no one was advertising own positions at the time.
What is your major now?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:52 pm to Hammertime
N.R.E.M. concentration in Wetland Science...were up to 9 total in the program 
. RNR boomed this year though, we have something like 95 new freshman which is huge considering there was only about 235 people in the whole college last year.
I'm not really even sure it would qualify me for a better gig, I'm just 3 classes shy of tacking it on and it seemed like a good idea. I see what you're saying though, it doesn't make me nearly as much of a dual threat as some one with a business and forestry degree.
We really haven't been exposed much to pine though, other than in dendro. Everything growing around my end is either hardwood, baldcypress or tupelo
. RNR boomed this year though, we have something like 95 new freshman which is huge considering there was only about 235 people in the whole college last year. I'm not really even sure it would qualify me for a better gig, I'm just 3 classes shy of tacking it on and it seemed like a good idea. I see what you're saying though, it doesn't make me nearly as much of a dual threat as some one with a business and forestry degree.
We really haven't been exposed much to pine though, other than in dendro. Everything growing around my end is either hardwood, baldcypress or tupelo
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:53 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Buy you some small implements to get started and get into land management marketed towards high rolling hunters that don't have the time to manage their own properties.
That's my dream job for the record so if you get it rolling I'll head the Lafayette branch for you.
That's my dream job for the record so if you get it rolling I'll head the Lafayette branch for you.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:08 pm to CroTigerXIII
Bunch of folks here already kinda do that ( plots, bushogg, land clearing) The thought crossed my mind before
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:11 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
If you start running cattle or farming Ill help you out when I can spare it, bout all the other help I got for ya.
Whats the reason for not giving the rigs a shot? Kids?
Whats the reason for not giving the rigs a shot? Kids?
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:15 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
this is all I can think about since I read your topic...
sorry...
sorry...
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:18 pm to Lightnin Hopkins
I talked to Dr Rutherford a while back and he said that the forestry program pretty much died out, but the wildlife/fisheries programs had blown up.
If you are doing wetlands, I'd definitely consider it because mitigation/delineation/remediation is a huge business. One of my buddies that graduated a year ahead of me works for the Nature Conservancy planning, converting, and managing newly acquired mitigation sites. There is big money in that.
We got a hardwoods class started when I was a senior, but I can't remember the number. It was a 4000 level class that Keim taught. Very informative when it comes to soils. I'd take that class even if you aren't getting a forestry minor. The soil science that I was required to take was just a bullshite boring class, and I got nothing out of it, but Keim's class was much better because it was smaller, in the field, and you actually got to see what was going on underneath the ground
If you are doing wetlands, I'd definitely consider it because mitigation/delineation/remediation is a huge business. One of my buddies that graduated a year ahead of me works for the Nature Conservancy planning, converting, and managing newly acquired mitigation sites. There is big money in that.
We got a hardwoods class started when I was a senior, but I can't remember the number. It was a 4000 level class that Keim taught. Very informative when it comes to soils. I'd take that class even if you aren't getting a forestry minor. The soil science that I was required to take was just a bullshite boring class, and I got nothing out of it, but Keim's class was much better because it was smaller, in the field, and you actually got to see what was going on underneath the ground
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:19 pm to GREENHEAD22
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rigs
? As in offshore
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:19 pm to Hammertime
Mitigation is a huge PITA
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:20 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Or on land but yea drilling rigs.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:26 pm to GREENHEAD22
Yea really dont wanna be away from home for more than a few days at a time.
Hotshot may be my best option as long as the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale is going around here. Would be nice to get in on it and drive locally
Hotshot may be my best option as long as the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale is going around here. Would be nice to get in on it and drive locally
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