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re: 1991 was the last year a pac 12 team won the national title
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:30 pm to TH03
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:30 pm to TH03
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yea, they definitely gained an on field advantage that year from paying Reggie
I bet if Reggie never met those agents OU would have scored another 6 TDs. Vacated titles are similar to UN sanctions
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Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:30 pm to TH03
Couldn't buying things for players or their families get players to sign there who otherwise wouldn't have signed there? Thus making their team much stronger because they cheated to get better players?
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:30 pm to TH03
So paying him had no part in him choosing to go to USC?
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:30 pm to runningTiger
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1991 was the last year an eligible pac 12 team won and kept the national title
FIFY
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:31 pm to runningTiger
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and others schools are not allowed
yea, USC was the ONLY school paying players. lol
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:31 pm to PrimeTime Money
thats exactly what happened at usc
and as soon as the money stopped going to the players and recruits
usc's program fell apart
and as soon as the money stopped going to the players and recruits
usc's program fell apart
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:31 pm to The Mick
they probably just paid him more than other schools offered.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:31 pm to TH03
if you have proof that other schools were paying players, bring it forward
until then it's just hearsay and accusations
until then it's just hearsay and accusations
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:32 pm to runningTiger
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not only were the wins vacated, but the bcs vacated the national championship
They vacated the national championship that they won, right?
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:32 pm to runningTiger
if you have proof of you having an IQ over 5, bring it forward
until then it's just hearsay and accusations.
until then it's just hearsay and accusations.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:33 pm to Walking the Earth
they were forced to vacate the national championship that they won by way of cheating
in the same way that if i got a 100 on a test and later was discovered i cheated, my 100 would be made into a 0
in the same way that if i got a 100 on a test and later was discovered i cheated, my 100 would be made into a 0
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:33 pm to TH03
quote:So they cheated and it directly had an impact on their on-field play.
they probably just paid him more than other schools offered.
You said before that it had no bearing on them winning games.
Gotcha in your lie.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:35 pm to PrimeTime Money
Wasn't it because Bush was getting cars and and shite from agents while he was in school and some assistants knew about it but didn't do anything? I didn't think it had anything to do with his recruitment but I didn't follow it that closely
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:36 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Gotcha in your lie.
it didn't directly have an impact on the on the field play. you can surmise that he wouldn't have gone to USC and been a beast if he wasn't paid, but that's just speculation.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:36 pm to runningTiger
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they were forced to vacate the national championship that they won by way of cheating
OK so they won it. Thanks for clarifying that.
So the Pac-12 shared the title in 2003 and then won it all in 2004 but the 2004 title was vacated.
Great trip to memory lane. When does the "Where are they now?" segment begin?
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:36 pm to runningTiger
The AP voted Miami #1 in 1991. The Pac12 hasn't won an undisputed title since 1972.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:36 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I believe it was that, but I'm not sure so I'll play the hypothetical with recruiting too
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:39 pm to Walking the Earth
2003 lsu won it - both teams agreed to the bcs rules before the season began.
2004 - no one won it, after usc was caught cheating and the title and season vacated
2004 - no one won it, after usc was caught cheating and the title and season vacated
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:39 pm to TH03
I'm just playing around playing devil's advocate.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:40 pm to runningTiger
2004: USC won it but was later vacated which is basically the ncaa saying "close your eyes and wipe this from your memory. even though it really happened it didn't"
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