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re: FSU benches Winston for making an offensive comment about women
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:08 pm to DawgfaninCa
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:08 pm to DawgfaninCa
In what fricking universe does a coach or AD have to provide a hearing before benching a player . . . for any fricking reason? 
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 3:09 pm
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Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:11 pm to VOR
quote:
In what fricking universe does a coach or AD have to provide a hearing before benching a player . . . for any fricking reason?
In the same universe that Walmart, Bestbuy, Target, etc... have to provide counsel and public hearings to their employees
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:11 pm to VOR
quote:
In what fricking universe does a coach or AD have to provide a hearing before benching a player . . . for any fricking reason?
In the same universe that Ray Rice can knock out his wife because she has the capacity to kick him in the nuts.
Yes... he believes that as well.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:11 pm to Lsut81
Nope
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:13 pm to VOR
quote:I have no idea what universe this guy lives in, but it ain't the regular one we live in.
In what fricking universe does a coach or AD have to provide a hearing before benching a player . . . for any fricking reason?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:13 pm to DawgfaninCa
Super dumb and trashy but I think its being blown wayyyyy out of proportion.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:15 pm to Pinecone Repair
Sure it is, but it isn't a violation of his constitutional right.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:20 pm to Scruffy
Nah, he's free to say dumb stuff not free from the consequences.
This thread is too long. Are people arguing that his rights have been violated ?
This thread is too long. Are people arguing that his rights have been violated ?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:21 pm to Pinecone Repair
quote:
Are people arguing that his rights have been violated ?
Yes, the person who started this thread is...
Claiming that Winston has a right to his lawyer being present and a public hearing before he should be punished for his actions...
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:22 pm to Pinecone Repair
quote:Dawgfan is.
Are people arguing that his rights have been violated
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:24 pm to Scruffy
<- 
for not reading OP thoroughly
-> Dawgfan for being silly.
for not reading OP thoroughly -> Dawgfan for being silly.Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:24 pm to Lsut81
That's as the kids say "cray-cray".
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:30 pm to Scruffy
Are some here trying the angle that this is state action because FSU is a government institution?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:33 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:
I don't know about you but I live in the USA where everyone has the constitutional right to freely express themselves even if it offends someone.
In America...we all have freedom of speech.
In America...none of us have freedom from consequence from said speech.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:38 pm to asurob1
Change of direction.........does anyone think the university should hand down punishment to the athletes instead of the coaches? I know a lot of times that is not possible, for example, schools do not regularly test the student body for drugs, so if a player fails an internal drug test the penalty is up to the coach, but if the school has a "code of conduct" policy and the players action(s) fall within that policy, should the school punish the player instead of the coach?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:43 pm to DawgfaninCa
If Obama had a son, the youngster would look like Jameis.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:07 pm to VOR
quote:In all seriousness VOR, one would hope Duke Lacrosse would NEVER happen again. Ever!
In what fricking universe does a coach or AD have to provide a hearing before benching a player . . . for any fricking reason?
Nonetheless, with "guilty-by-accusation," we seem to be inviting it.
This situation is obviously different. Occurred with a hundred witnesses or more. But mark my words, at some point the equation will flip. An issue laden girl will cry foul when no foul was committed. For her it will be a 'free shot.' No risk at all.
Falsely contrived accusations of assault, battery, or rape carry no ramifications for the accuser whatsoever.
It is wrong.
It is inexcusable.
But it is the way things are.
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:40 pm to Pinecone Repair
quote:
Super dumb and trashy but I think its being blown wayyyyy out of proportion.
This.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:42 pm to asurob1
How the frick are people making this a freedom of speech or due process issue? He's THE face of the University right now and coaches can bench people for any reason they want. They're the fricking coach.
And it's not even about due process, there's a video of him shouting this shite. He's not going to jail, his rights have not been violated.
And it's not even about due process, there's a video of him shouting this shite. He's not going to jail, his rights have not been violated.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:45 pm to NC_Tigah
False allegations of rape occur at about a 2% clip - on par with false reports of all crimes. The worst outcome of the duke lacrosse case is that it will always be the basis for undermining real victims.
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