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re: Miles/Cam's strategy this year is the correct one
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:37 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:37 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:Exactly. If defenses don't respect your passing game, they stack the box to stop the running game. Very simple.
That strategy won't win the big games against, Auburn, Bama, and FLA/Tam.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 12:39 pm
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:43 pm to Tiger Ryno
I totally agree, BUT, it is very tough to watch at times. Beating NLU 10-0 at halftime is not exactly exciting football.
I have come to believe that some LSU fans will never be satisfied. After 10 years we should all realize that LSU's offensive style will be determined by the personnel.
Last years offense looked nothing like this years offense. This group is not ready or capable of putting up those type of numbers......yet.
I have come to believe that some LSU fans will never be satisfied. After 10 years we should all realize that LSU's offensive style will be determined by the personnel.
Last years offense looked nothing like this years offense. This group is not ready or capable of putting up those type of numbers......yet.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:45 pm to dante
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I have come to believe that some LSU fans will never be satisfied. After 10 years we should all realize that LSU's offensive style will be determined by the personnel.
Last years offense looked nothing like this years offense. This group is not ready or capable of putting up those type of numbers......yet.
This guy understood that. In fact, I nearly got banned on 1/1/2014 for pointing out to everyone that "here comes the 2009 LSU offense again". Nobody believed me. But it's baaaack.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:47 pm to dante
quote:Painfully evident, but hard for some to understand.
This group is not ready or capable of putting up those type of numbers......yet.
They think "Just do it"
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:50 pm to Choupique19
If LSU OL is anything like '09 group, the O is fricked.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:52 pm to Choupique19
Has anyone done a breakdown of run vs pass on 1st down and the completion percentage, as well as the 3rd down run vs pass with completion percentage?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:56 pm to dante
That's the part nobody seems to be talking about. I would love to see that.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:05 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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That strategy won't win the big games against, Auburn, Bama, and FLA/Tam.
This.
It probably won't even work this weekend against MSU.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:34 pm to mmcgrath
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Something in the middle just might work, you know?
I think its coming...Cam is a sandbaggin son of a bitch...
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:38 pm to Choupique19
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I think as far as points allowed goes, this year's group could match them.
Sure, our "points allowed" looks good so far ..... but we haven't played anybody with a decent offense!!!
For a half, Wisconsin ran the ball very well on us until we figured out they couldn't throw at all.
Do you honestly this our D will continue to dominate when playing our SEC schedule???
Good grief, the lack of rational thought on this board is very frustrating.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:42 pm to Alt26
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With team loading up to stop the run, it might be nice to see the offense spread the formation out a bit on 1st and 2nd down.
I don't know, I kind of like seeing LSU run for 4 yards against 9-10 man fronts.
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Right now LSU is very predictable.
Being predictable isn't so bad if you can't be stopped. SEE: Nebraska ca. 1990s.
I don't think some of you understand the nature of Les Miles ground game. He's not trying to score every time he calls a run play in the 1st quarter, he's just punching the defense in the face. So you pick up 0-1 yard per run in the 1st, 2-3 yards in the 2nd, 4-5 yards in the third, and by the 4th quarter the defense is tired of being punched in the face and they start giving up huge runs.
There is a reason Les Miles has a winning record when being behind on the scoreboard in the 4th quarter, it's because of the play calling in the 1st and 2nd quarters.
You have to have patience watching these games, appreciate what the offense is doing to the defense and watch the game unfold in the second half. It really is a thing of beauty - ESPECIALLY when the other team knows exactly what's coming, and STILL can't stop it.
Does it always work? No, but nothing always works.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:43 pm to MarreroMike
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The strategy did not work for three quarters of the Wisconsin game, but Les stayed with it and that worked out pretty good.
you're conveniently leaving out the fact that two of Wisconsin's starting D line got hurt in that game, and they were already thin there. That was a big, big influence in our second half ability to run the ball against Wisky.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:44 pm to dante
quote:We have the talent and personell to diversify more, it's just young talent. They will make some mistakes if we open it up for sure...but that's how you get better, make some mistakes and learn and grow. Trying to play it safe and close to the vest all of the time stunts the growth and ability of our players (we often see them blossom more in the NFL when they get into better schemes and coaching).
I have come to believe that some LSU fans will never be satisfied. After 10 years we should all realize that LSU's offensive style will be determined by the personnel
We better mix it up against Moo St or we could get into a dogfight.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:46 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:The big boys punch back. This is the SEC, you can't be a one trick pony and win the big prize. This isn't the Big 10, their athletes are often just as good as ours.
He's not trying to score every time he calls a run play in the 1st quarter, he's just punching the defense in the face.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:48 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
You also can't do what your team isn't built to be. Y'all want to go 4 or 5 wide every play and that shite won't work either.
Wearing down the defense by running the ball is a proven method to win a football game.
Wearing down the defense by running the ball is a proven method to win a football game.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:49 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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We better mix it up against Moo St or we could get into a dogfight.
very true, but arent we always in a dog fight it seems?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:52 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Trying to play it safe and close to the vest all of the time stunts the growth and ability of our players
exactly.
And why in the world wouldn't we open it up against Sam Houston and ULM? Based on how our defense was shutting them down, they had basically zero chance of beating us, so open up the playbook and give our guys the work they need. Try new stuff and see if it works.
If we give up a turnover or two doing that, we can survive that. But instead we play it tight almost all the time. I don't get it.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:53 pm to atltiger6487
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And why in the world wouldn't we open it up against Sam Houston
LSU "opened it up" plenty against Sa houston
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:54 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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The big boys punch back.
lulz.
We ARE the big boys.
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This is the SEC, you can't be a one trick pony and win the big prize.
In 2011 LSU beat Bama and won the conference with this approach. Sure, Bama won the rematch, but it took the best defense in their history to do it. Their defense looks suspect this year.
As horrible as so many LSU fans think it looks, there is NO defense in the SEC that wants to go up against Les Miles' predictable offense. It hurts.
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