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Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:54 am to Broski
You cherry-picked the one play where he was caught ball-watching.
Harden has been playing good defense this tournament.
Harden has been playing good defense this tournament.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:58 am to LSUSoulja08
quote:Yet amazingly, team USA always has the best defense of any team in these tournaments.
Looks like typical nba defense Which is why I can't watch the nba anymore
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:27 am to A$AP Cocky
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Nah I'm good with Lance
That's cute.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:28 am to PrimeTime Money
He really has, for the most part. And I'm not sure how everyone keeps watching this play and only see Harden as playing bad D. Kyrie Irving gambled and took himself completely out of the play (for the 2nd time on that possession, mind you, although the gif doesn't show his first bad gamble) and it was going to be a hoop either way, but no one notices his bad D. You could do this kind of thing for damn near any player in the league.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:23 am to TallMan
Anyone defending that pitiful display of effort by Harden is just being a Rockettes homer.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:30 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Who is defending that particular play?
And if you want to talk about being homers, look at all of the Pellies fans in this thread and other threads who just can't wait to call out Harden for any little thing.
And if you want to talk about being homers, look at all of the Pellies fans in this thread and other threads who just can't wait to call out Harden for any little thing.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:47 am to LSUSoulja08
quote:If you think that's typical nba defense from what you've watched, it's probably best you don't watch any more.
Looks like typical nba defense
Which is why I can't watch the nba anymore
NBA defense is better and more complex than it ever has been, its really not much of a debate to be honest.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:50 am to shel311
I was about to say, watch Memphis, San Antonio, Chicago, Indiana, OKC, etc..
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:51 am to Broski
Cant spell instant offense with a "D"
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:03 am to boXerrumble
It's typical Harden defense, but most elite NBA players actually give somewhat of a frick on both sides of the ball
He's the exception.
He's the exception.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 12:01 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Harden has played some great D at times in this tournament, but this play is indicative of him: sometimes, he just half asses it on D. It's not an isolated incident...sometimes he does this, and sometimes he locks people down.
That's the frustrating part of Harden's game: he has elite skill and strength, is a very good ball handler at SG, and can dominate a game if he chooses too, but on the flip side he gives inconsistent effort, can get ball dominant, and instead of letting his game play clean and dictate, he constantly relies on referees. The perfect JH line is about 4/12 from the FG but going 13/14 from FT.
If he had someone light a constant fire under him he could be a great. But he won't be. Instead he'll be a really good SG.
That's the frustrating part of Harden's game: he has elite skill and strength, is a very good ball handler at SG, and can dominate a game if he chooses too, but on the flip side he gives inconsistent effort, can get ball dominant, and instead of letting his game play clean and dictate, he constantly relies on referees. The perfect JH line is about 4/12 from the FG but going 13/14 from FT.
If he had someone light a constant fire under him he could be a great. But he won't be. Instead he'll be a really good SG.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 12:18 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Not true. He averages 7.5 field goals made per game on 16.5 attempts. Broken down, that's 2.4 of 6.6 attempts from 3-point land, and 5.1 of 9.9 2-point attempts.
The perfect JH line is about 4/12 from the FG but going 13/14 from FT.
And he makes 7.9 of 9.1 free throw attempts per game.
So an average James Harden state line is something like:
26 points on 8/17 shooting, 7 of 9 from the line.
Has he had games where he's gone about 4/12 and made a lot of free throws? Yes.
But once again, people focus on the outliers and not the norm.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 9/1/14 at 12:22 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:these guys don't see enough of harden to know any better. they just regurgitate what they hear from their pelicans brethren. gonna be a lonnnng 2014-15 season for those guys.
But once again, people focus on the outliers and not the norm.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 12:26 pm to Boomshockalocka
this thread was legitimately made to try and talk about Anthony Davis. it's pretty obvious when the OP brought him up like 3 times for no reason. if you wanna suck off Anthony Davis, that's great, he's awesome. go start a thread on the pelicans board and get a circle jerk going.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 12:30 pm to Fun Bunch
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The perfect JH line is about 4/12 from the FG but going 13/14 from FT.
or if you're talking playoffs, 7/20 & 8/9
Posted on 9/1/14 at 12:32 pm to PrimeTime Money
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team USA always has the best defense of any team in these tournaments
the 10th best athlete on team USA generally would be the #1 athlete on most teams
Posted on 9/1/14 at 12:35 pm to Broski
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You're right. I would've known not to make a Houston retread (Ariza) my big splash summer signing.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 12:37 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Oh, they already have their circle jerk going on over there. It's unbelievable how much they suck off AD.
And also... Pelicans fans talk about Harden more than Rockets fans do. They're obsessed.
And also... Pelicans fans talk about Harden more than Rockets fans do. They're obsessed.
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