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re: If you don't like it, leave!

Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:01 pm to
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If you don't like it, leave!



This phrase is usually a way to rationalize dumb, overbearing state and local laws.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259894 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:04 pm to
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Meh. I used to be patriotic too. Then I started to pay attention...


I was being facetious.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259894 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:05 pm to
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Canada has a lower corporate tax rate because they have a significantly higher individual tax rate.

Maybe we should follow their lead.


The anti corporation people would hate this
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:18 pm to


Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30162 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:19 pm to
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Canada has a lower corporate tax rate because they have a significantly higher individual tax rate.

Maybe we should follow their lead.


The problem with that theory, is that it views high tax revenue for the government as a positive thing. It isn't.

How about having a low corporate tax rate AND a low individual tax rate so Americans (ya know, the people who ARE the country) can keep THEIR money in THEIR pockets.

The less money the government receives from citizens and businesses, the better.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:29 pm to
While I agree with that to a certain point, lower taxes just aren't realistic right now.

We actually need higher taxes to fix our fiscal problems, along with entitlement reform and decrease military spending.

Attack the problem from all angles, get it fixed sooner rather than later or never, then lower taxes below what they are today.

I know that won't happen and we will just keep running up the debt, but that is still what I think needs to happen and I want my smaller getting fuct now rather than a massive arse raping in ten years or twenty. Because it's coming.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30162 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:39 pm to
Fair enough, however, I feel that not only should a majority of spending cease, but once we get that under control, start eliminating wasteful programs that have somehow made their way on to the list of untouchable apportioned tax dollars.

Essentially we (or the government rather) not only need to stop buying new clothes, going out to eat every night and running up our credit card, but we also need to cut out the cable, get rid of the dual car notes and eat PB&J for every meal to catch up on this ridiculous debt we've accrued.

Unfortunately congress is most likely too far gone for any semblance of that (or any semblance of fiscal responsibility for that matter) to occur.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:43 pm to
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All I know is...I am about to add BK back into the rotation in support of this move.


And once you take a bite of the food, they'll be right back out again.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:46 pm to
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Essentially we (or the government rather) not only need to stop buying new clothes, going out to eat every night and running up our credit card, but we also need to cut out the cable, get rid of the dual car notes and eat PB&J for every meal to catch up on this ridiculous debt we've accrued.

Think about it, our entire society is based upon those things you say we shouldn't do. Living beyond our means permeates our very culture.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78893 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:36 pm to
It's not a popular situation, but I have no problem with them leaving. Business isn't meant to be friendly and cutesy, it's about the bottom line - has nothing to do with how they view America. Same with several other American companies who opted to set up corporate shop outside the US.

Tax laws here unfairly treat some companies well while others get favorable treatment *see GE
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:39 pm to
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If you don't like it, leave!
pretty much a republican quote these days. Tea party to be exact.

Thus why I cheer for their demise.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259894 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:54 pm to
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pretty much a republican quote these days. Tea party to be exact.



We must live in a different universe than you.

Where do you folks get your ideas of this "tea party?"
Posted by Me4Heisman
Landmass
Member since Aug 2004
5509 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:01 pm to
You can usually spot the most mindless of the liberals when they begin talking about the tea party.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259894 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:04 pm to
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You can usually spot the most mindless of the liberals when they begin talking about the tea party.



Definitely indoctrinated. The hot buttons are "Tea Party" "Fox" and now, the "Koch Bros."

Many who associated with the early Tea Party movement, which has long died, weren't the "love it or leave it" type. The felt they were the outsiders.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 11:21 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:12 pm to
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Many who associated with the early Tea Party movement, which has long died, weren't the "love it or leave it" type. The felt they were the outsiders.



I attended the first Tea Party back in 2008.

I'm such a Republican
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32833 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:23 pm to
But Bernie Sanders sez the effective tax rate is only 12%
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259894 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:24 pm to
Yeah, the first tea party groups around here in 2009 were mainly independent, libertarian leaning people. I think their cohesiveness lasted a few months and they lost interest.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32833 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:26 pm to
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Posted by TT9 quote:

If you don't like it, leave! pretty much a republican quote these days. Tea party to be exact.

Thus why I cheer for their demise.

Haha. Aint gonna happen Chief and you know it.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:29 pm to
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I think their cohesiveness lasted a few months and they lost interest.


Organizing libertarians is like herding cats. I'm not surprised.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8393 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 3:01 am to
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"There's nothing more Patriotic than avoiding your taxes, mother fricker"
-Vols&Shaft
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