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re: DC: "No Jokes" Floating Around
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:36 pm to BlacknGold
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:36 pm to BlacknGold
Some people don't like Eccleston. I liked him and think there are some really good episodes. Dalek , Father's Day and The Empty Child are good.
I mention some don't like him so you will at least continue to season 2.
I mention some don't like him so you will at least continue to season 2.
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:39 pm to TigerMyth36
i tried watching the show back in '05 but didnt care for Eccleston. ive told people that and everyone says to just stick with it because it gets a lot better. so im going to just get through this season and not hold it against the show.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:40 pm to TigerMyth36
See and I think I would like Eccleston, I generally do. But the show....looks too weird. I'm going to give it a shot.
You can get back at me for Babylon 5.
And you never had the need to finish!?!? It does get darker in general, but the overall tone stays a little cheesy.
ETA: Thread Officially Derailed.
You can get back at me for Babylon 5.
And you never had the need to finish!?!? It does get darker in general, but the overall tone stays a little cheesy.
ETA: Thread Officially Derailed.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:41 pm to Freauxzen
It just gets worse, and worse, and worse. I always think to myself "how could this get any worse?" And then Goyer or someone else opens their trap and it somehow gets worse. I bet this Justice League plan doesn't last until 2019.
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:43 pm to Freauxzen
quote:Nope. I always had a hard time just making it through those horrible opening credits with some of the worst CGI Effects ever.
And you never had the need to finish!?!?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:44 pm to OMLandshark
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It just gets worse, and worse, and worse. I always think to myself "how could this get any worse?" And then Goyer or someone else opens their trap and it somehow gets worse. I bet this Justice League plan doesn't last until 2019.
Was MoS or Avatar that was the bigger letdown for you? I can't remember which one you were pumped about.
Either way, I still don't think it's all bad news, this is pretty dumb and has NOT been confirmed.
But still, there's always a chance it could work out. I think Snyder CAN be talented. DotD is a well composed film. 300 is good for what it is. MoS has its moments.
Snyder needs a Fincher-like change, but he's still young. It may not happen for a long time.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:45 pm to TigerMyth36
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Nope. I always had a hard time just making it through those horrible opening credits with some of the worst CGI Effects ever.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 7:07 pm to Freauxzen
I'm really hoping this isn't true. If there is one thing that I want to be uniform in comic book movies, it has to have a degree of humor and humanity to remind us that they still have peoples best interests at heart while still maintaining some seriousness when it's only absolutely necessary.
I don't care if its copycat, this should be a standard for sony, fox, marvel and DC all together.
I don't care if its copycat, this should be a standard for sony, fox, marvel and DC all together.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 7:12 pm to Freauxzen
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Was MoS or Avatar that was the bigger letdown for you? I can't remember which one you were pumped about.
If you're talking about Blue Man Group Avatar, then Man of Steel for sure. I just thought that James Cameron would have something up his sleeve that wasn't revealed in the previews, since the previews didn't look that great, but the word in the industry was solid. In the end, I was disappointed, but it was still a good movie to get stoned and watch in the theaters, to where I let it slide until it hit DVD.
Man of Steel I was completely pumped for. I was disappointed with them choosing Zod as the main antagonist, but the previews looked way too cool for me to care. Michael Shannon was a good actor, and he could bring something new to the role. Unfortunately, all Snyder did was make Man of Steel everything Superman Returns wasn't, and that's a bad thing. It was just over-the-top fights, violence, gives me no reason to care about these characters, makes Superman largely responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands, and then just completely glosses over it.
It was clear to me watching the movie that Snyder had no idea what the hell he was doing (Cameron on the other hand knew exactly what he was doing with Avatar), and really didn't know if he wanted to make the first or second movie in a trilogy, so he just had a complete overlap of tones and violence which made it an absolute mess. I just gave up completely when some guy asked Lois to a baseball game, when he should be cowering in fear in his apartment due to tons of his friends and family were likely killed.
If you're talking about Shyamalan's abortion, then that would be the biggest disappointing film in my life. I go into rage mode just thinking about that one.
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Snyder needs a Fincher-like change, but he's still young. It may not happen for a long time.
Snyder needs a good writer and a strong producer around him (ie: not Goyer). I really think Nolan just have slight recommendations, but was largely ignored in favor of Goyer. Nolan knew why it was a bad choice for Superman to kill Zod, but they didn't listen to him.
Snyder is talented, but he needs a lot of guidance and structure to be a good film maker.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:24 pm to OMLandshark
Curious....who would you have wanted to see as the main villain in MoS and why?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:31 pm to OMLandshark
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If you're talking about Blue Man Group Avatar, then Man of Steel for sure. I just thought that James Cameron would have something up his sleeve that wasn't revealed in the previews, since the previews didn't look that great, but the word in the industry was solid. In the end, I was disappointed, but it was still a good movie to get stoned and watch in the theaters, to where I let it slide until it hit DVD.
Got it. Yeah I couldn't remember.
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Man of Steel I was completely pumped for. I was disappointed with them choosing Zod as the main antagonist, but the previews looked way too cool for me to care. Michael Shannon was a good actor, and he could bring something new to the role. Unfortunately, all Snyder did was make Man of Steel everything Superman Returns wasn't, and that's a bad thing. It was just over-the-top fights, violence, gives me no reason to care about these characters, makes Superman largely responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands, and then just completely glosses over it.
It was clear to me watching the movie that Snyder had no idea what the hell he was doing (Cameron on the other hand knew exactly what he was doing with Avatar), and really didn't know if he wanted to make the first or second movie in a trilogy, so he just had a complete overlap of tones and violence which made it an absolute mess. I just gave up completely when some guy asked Lois to a baseball game, when he should be cowering in fear in his apartment due to tons of his friends and family were likely killed.
This all goes back to unknown's comment about Nolan. Instead of Snyder making a Snyder film he was attempting to turn MoS into a Batman Begins.
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If you're talking about Shyamalan's abortion, then that would be the biggest disappointing film in my life. I go into rage mode just thinking about that one.
Yeah no
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Snyder is talented, but he needs a lot of guidance and structure to be a good film maker.
And there's a difference between guidance and control, which I think is a problem for everyone, not just Goyer.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:54 pm to Darkknight
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:57 pm to Asharad
Alrighty
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:00 pm to Darkknight
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:05 pm to Darkknight
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Curious....who would you have wanted to see as the main villain in MoS and why?
First film: Combination of Luthor and Metallo (and rumor has it, these are the villains of the next film).
Second film: Really, I'd just create a new one. The major weakness of Superman's rouge gallery is that there's really no global threat (save Luthor) who is only on Earth and solely focused on Earth. Maybe a villain whose just as powerful as Superman with a God complex and wants to destroy Superman's legacy. At the end Metropolis and much of the world is basically destroyed, and Superman's legacy with it... but then again that's what they did with Man of Steel but completely ignored the ramifications of what happened during the film. Honestly, Superman should be crying in a corner somewhere knowing his presence solely almost caused the end of the world and the deaths of hundreds of thousands. But Superman cheerfully makes out with Lois Lane on top of the corpses of thousands and then gleefully tells the US Military that they'll never find him, despite the fact that he tells them he's from Kansas, and that coincidentally a town in Kansas has been completely decimated when the Kryptonians landed at the house of some Kent family.
Third Film: Brainiac, and having no real connection to Superman. It's his opportunity to redeem himself, and without him, humanity would be screwed.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:12 pm to Asharad
Serious, I partly agree with you. Luthor has been in like 4 Superman movies since the 78' version, but Zod only one. A reboot means a reboot of everyone, not just the main hero. I could have went with Zod or Brainiac since it was a rehash origin movie. But please not another Luthor real estate story.
I also think Bizzaro would be an excellent villian for a Supes movie. He would somewhat add a little destructive comic relief.
Buy I'd rather see Zod or Luthor before Toyman or Prankster as the main villain.
I also think Bizzaro would be an excellent villian for a Supes movie. He would somewhat add a little destructive comic relief.
Buy I'd rather see Zod or Luthor before Toyman or Prankster as the main villain.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:18 pm to Freauxzen
Green Lantern had far more problems with it than trying to be too funny.
I understand they don't want people to feel like they're trying to piggyback on the success of Avengers, but Marvel's niche fits in with the movie they made. It's about fist pumping action.
I hope they're atleast going for different themes. But deliberately trying not to be funny can't be what they mean. Just a generalization for the tone they want.
I understand they don't want people to feel like they're trying to piggyback on the success of Avengers, but Marvel's niche fits in with the movie they made. It's about fist pumping action.
I hope they're atleast going for different themes. But deliberately trying not to be funny can't be what they mean. Just a generalization for the tone they want.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:21 pm to OMLandshark
1st film: Luthor again? And why Metallo? He's somewhat second rate IMO.
2nd film: Parasite, Bizzaro??
3rd film: Agree. Brainiac could be one if the missing elements in the Superman cinamatic world. He would be a perfect addition.
2nd film: Parasite, Bizzaro??
3rd film: Agree. Brainiac could be one if the missing elements in the Superman cinamatic world. He would be a perfect addition.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:23 pm to Darkknight
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Serious, I partly agree with you. Luthor has been in like 4 Superman movies since the 78' version, but Zod only one. A reboot means a reboot of everyone, not just the main hero. I could have went with Zod or Brainiac since it was a rehash origin movie. But please not another Luthor real estate story.
Oh I agree, no Luthor real estate story. As far as I'm concerned, Luthor has never been properly portrayed on screen, and I don't see that changing with this movie. With the simplistic way they keep on mentioning "The Dark Knight Returns", despite the fact that it makes zero sense to take any inspiration from that comic when you're rebooting Batman, I have no doubt that Snyder and Goyer merely wanted to make Luthor more current and simply said "Let's make him into Mark Zuckerberg". Luthor should be physically intimidating, and Jesse Eisenberg couldn't intimidate a ham sandwich. Really, he should act as if he could snap Superman's neck at any second, but restrains himself.
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I also think Bizzaro would be an excellent villian for a Supes movie. He would somewhat add a little destructive comic relief.
Bizzaro couldn't hold a movie on his own. I started writing a script for a Superman trilogy about 2 years ago, and did have Bizzaro be a minor part of the second one. Plot was Luthor was president, and over the course of his presidency (which started right at the end of my first film), tons of governments from all over the world started genetic experiments to take on Superman. Among them Bizarro, Parasite, Atomic Skull, and Livewire. Finally one comes along that is way too powerful to control, operates more from the shadows, and begins toppling world governments, and eventually releases all 4 of them. The villain keeps Luthor alive and unharmed since he does wonders destroying Superman's reputation. Had it end with Superman launching the villain into space on the capsule Superman came on, but since Superman can kill now, it's basically screwed.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:26 pm to Darkknight
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1st film: Luthor again? And why Metallo? He's somewhat second rate IMO.
Luthor for the brains. Metallo for the muscle. As I said, Luthor hasn't been done accurately, and I'd have him get away with it completely at the end and be elected president. I'd think that's where Luthor could be best utilized, which would come in handy in the later 2 films.
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2nd film: Parasite, Bizzaro??
Nope, too small. Bizzaro is an idiot who can't plan crap, which makes him easy fodder for Superman, and Parasite doesn't give a shite about taking over the world. He's a threat to a city, but not really the world. They'd make great minor villains or villains if Metropolis was just in danger, but that's it. They're not global threats.
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