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re: Atty. Gen. Holder: "I am also a black man."
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:20 am to AlaTiger
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:20 am to AlaTiger
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with a white guy - just so they could feel powerful. It was common. It was all racial and there was cursing and often it would end in violence. I never saw white guys do it to black guys.
This was my experience as well. Most of the racial harassment I saw was black on white.
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Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:20 am to MrFreakinMiyagi
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So is yours. Quit whining, bitch.
That's my point. It was not a big deal. I moved on and forgot about it - honestly until years later when I remembered it in a conversation with a black friend who was complaining about how people looked at him from time to time. I told him the story and he was in shock. He couldn't believe that something like that would happen. He asked how it affected me and I said it didn't. I didn't care.
Yes, my story is pathetic. His is even worse.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:20 am to trackfan
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over idea of a Black person occasionally wearing his ethnicity on his sleeve as though no other minority group ever does this,
Anyone with an IQ of room temperature knows that a person in law enforcement authority is not there to prejudge a case. Just as Governor Nixon did. Which is why he has taken so much heat.
Holder is supposed to be a dispassionate observer, not an advocate. If he wants to do that he should go back to practicing law or run for office.
Why that is so hard for some people to understand, is beyond me.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:23 am to son of arlo
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Dude ain't even got any authentic slave blood. Yet another magic negro. Holder is only a more eloquent version of Reverend Al.
How ignorant can you be? Slavery was legal in Barbados until the 1830's.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:24 am to Tiguar
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angry white guys cant wear their ethnicities on their sleeve. thats why we have a problem with it.
Of course they can, and I already gave some examples.
This post was edited on 8/23/14 at 11:32 am
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Dear god...
Well, don't let anyone ever accuse you of being open minded.
Typical Angry White Guy response, when you can't handle the message, you attack the messenger.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:26 am to redandright
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Why that is so hard for some people to understand, is beyond me.
Obama and his minions are political warriors. They play the political power game to win by any means necessary.
Their supporters also advocate this approach.
Don't expect any public Democrat figure to offer a critical comment about Holder's unfortunate comments.
Because he has announced his own bias in favor of finding racial motives in cases, he should arguably recuse himself from any prosecutorial involvement in any case that might have a racial element. But, you won't find any Obama-bot or Democrat who will tolerate as much as a rational conversation about this fact.
This is how Democrats roll. Let's hope that the US electorate can learn a lesson or two about voting Democrat. If not, then, we will always have a FedGov as "good" as the Obama FedGov.
This post was edited on 8/23/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
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From 4th grade on, Holder attended elite schools away from his neighborhood. His father was a real estate broker.
It was elite public school that he was admitted to based on merit. It wasn't an elite private school. There's nothing anti-Black about academic achievement.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:31 am to AlaTiger
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That's my point. It was not a big deal. I moved on and forgot about it - honestly until years later when I remembered it in a conversation with a black friend who was complaining about how people looked at him from time to time. I told him the story and he was in shock. He couldn't believe that something like that would happen. He asked how it affected me and I said it didn't. I didn't care.
Yes, my story is pathetic. His is even worse.
For the record, I appreciate you telling that story, I don't dismiss it at all and I didn't see it as whining. Those are the kinds of life experiences that help shape a person.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:31 am to trackfan
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Slavery was legal in Barbados until the 1830's.
Oh OK. Since slavery exists even today outside of the US and none of you racialogists seem to give a rip, I assumed it wasn't an issue.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:33 am to AlaTiger
quote:WTF does that mean? Shouldn't we be equal? Meaning he would act the same way regardless of color? Why would being a "black man" mean he acts any different than say... an asian man, or an Indian woman?
Atty. Gen. Holder: "I am also a black man."
I guess its true--some of us are more equal than others...
This post was edited on 8/23/14 at 11:34 am
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:34 am to trackfan
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It was elite public school that he was admitted to based on merit. It wasn't an elite private school. There's nothing anti-Black about academic achievement.
Who said there was?
What about it gives Holder his "blackness?" If it's just the color of his skin, you've got worst problems than most here.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:34 am to son of arlo
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Dude ain't even got any authentic slave blood. Yet another magic negro. Holder is only a more eloquent version of Reverend Al.
Barbadoes was one of the 1st British slaveholding territories in the West & a huge sugar trading territory.
How do you think most Africans got to the West Indies /Western hemisphere knucklehead?
Not that it matters as he is a "Black man" & no one tests his DNA when they see him. They see a Black man.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:36 am to AlaTiger
"I am also a black man."
No, Holder is primarily a black man, and his attorney general role is a distant second. His actions as attorney general have been driven far more by race, ideology, and political self-interest than the law. He is a disgrace.
No, Holder is primarily a black man, and his attorney general role is a distant second. His actions as attorney general have been driven far more by race, ideology, and political self-interest than the law. He is a disgrace.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:36 am to trackfan
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There's nothing anti-Black about academic achievement.
I wish more blacks felt this way. The USA would make a tremendous leap forward if blacks would realize/embrace the importance of education.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:36 am to trackfan
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For the record, I appreciate you telling that story, I don't dismiss it at all and I didn't see it as whining. Those are the kinds of life experiences that help shape a person.
Thanks. It did not make me angry. I did not get mad at black people from it. It was an event that happened. Things happen.
As an adult, I have worked hard trying to understand racial problems in America. White people have a lot to answer for, but we need solutions. We need healing. Holder does not help.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:39 am to trackfan
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find it amusing how Angry White Guys get their panties in a bunch over idea of a Black person occasionally wearing his ethnicity on his sleeve as though no other minority group ever does this, but of course they have no problem when Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans and Jewish-Americans do it.
We need to drop ALL those hyphens and just be Americans.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:39 am to trackfan
quote:So of the Furgeson police chief came out and said "well, I am also a white guy..." In the context that he would handle the internal investigation with that in mind... You wouldn't see a problem with that?
I find it amusing how Angry White Guys get their panties in a bunch over idea of a Black person occasionally wearing his ethnicity on his sleeve
I would.
quote:Honestly... I've never another AG make such a statement. Alberto Gonzales never said "I am a Latino" with implication that he would handle cases differently as a result.
they have no problem when Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans and Jewish-Americans do it.
You're making a nonexistent comparison as far as I can recall. But please--if you can find similar cases of an AG making such statements in recent years I will listen.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:47 am to sugar71
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Not that it matters as he is a "Black man" & no one tests his DNA when they see him. They see a Black man.
This is why we will never get beyond race.
Noting one's "Blackness" is chastised as racist if it denotes a negative trait or action. One's "Blackness" is a reason or excuse if it give others a positive opportunity.
Holder's comment either meant he was empathetic because he is black or that he shares common experiences and values.
I'm betting on the former.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:49 am to FightinTigersDammit
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We need to drop ALL those hyphens and just be Americans.
Yep, but will never happen.
This will get nowhere though so I'm out. Taking my children to enjoy some nature for a bit.
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