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re: Putin was right about Syria
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:16 pm to Cooter Davenport
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:16 pm to Cooter Davenport
I really wonder what would've happened if the actually US got rid of Assad.
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:29 pm to UPT
The same people on this board that howl about Obama being a dirty socialist, and then turn around and say they would rather have Vladimir Putin, the long time member of The Communist Party of the Soviet Union, are the definition of hacks. It's showing.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:36 pm to UPT
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The same people on this board that howl about Obama being a dirty socialist, and then turn around and say they would rather have Vladimir Putin, the long time member of The Communist Party of the Soviet Union, are the definition of hacks. It's showing.
When the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was on the map, he had little choice.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:39 pm to Malik Agar
If US got rid of Assad, the ISIS Caliphate State would be larger.
Libya after Khadaffi is another fertile ground for similar issues.
Arab Spring tah dah!
Libya after Khadaffi is another fertile ground for similar issues.
Arab Spring tah dah!
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:52 pm to Cooter Davenport
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"A strike (against Assad) would increase violence and unleash a new wave of terrorism. It could undermine multilateral efforts to resolve the Iranian nuclear problem and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and further destabilize the Middle East and North Africa. It could throw the entire system of international law and order out of balance."
What does his statement prove? We didn't strike and everything he predicted happened regardless. So it begs the question, what would have happened had there been a strike against Assad?
Could the US have efficiently supplied the moderate rebels with enough fire power to overthrow Assad and keep ISIS from strengthening to where it is today?
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:56 pm to notiger1997
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Love it. Kissing Putins arse. People crack me up.
How is saying Putin was right "kissing his arse?"
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:17 pm to Porky
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Seriously, I didn't realize the part about Bush #1 warning him actually happened.
Do you remember Brent Scowcroft's op-ed Don't Attack Saddam? Here's some context on the article that was written by Bush 41's best friend:
LINK
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:18 pm to Porky
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When the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was on the map, he had little choice.
He's as red now as he was then.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:23 pm to Porky
yea except that Obammy is more of a socialist than Putin, and Putin is more of a nationalist that Zero..
so your argument is pretty much fricked.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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How is saying Putin was right "kissing his arse?"
I'm curious as well. I'm no Putin fan, but it sure seems like he was right.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:34 pm to notiger1997
quote:has a point. Had we bombed Assad out of power and kept arming the "moderate rebels" would ISIL have control of Damascus? The airports, all the states resources and military hardware including the dirty bombs Assad was dropping?
Love it. Kissing Putins arse. People crack me up.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:37 pm to Malik Agar
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I really wonder what would've happened if the actually US got rid of Assad.
Same thing that happened in Egypt when they got rid of Mubarak only there would be no Syrian military to depose the Islamist like the Egyptian military did to the Brotherhood.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:38 pm to 4LSU2
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Does it make me a bad American to say I wish Vladimir resided at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in lieu of the current Kenyan that is destructing America in front of our eyes?
Commie.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:43 pm to constant cough
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Same thing that happened in Egypt when they got rid of Mubarak only there would be no Syrian military to depose the Islamist like the Egyptian military did to the Brotherhood.
The U.S. had absolutely nothing to do with Mubarak's ouster, neither militarily nor diplomatically. If anything, the Obama administration was guilty of continuing to support him after it was a foregone conclusion that he couldn't survive, and then they conveniently jumped on the bandwagon after the fact, as though they had supported the overthrow all along.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:46 pm to 4LSU2
quote:you not serious right?
Does it make me a bad American to say I wish Vladimir resided at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in lieu of the current Kenyan that is destructing America in front of our eyes?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:52 pm to Yat27
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How is saying Putin was right "kissing his arse?"
I'm curious as well. I'm no Putin fan, but it sure seems like he was right.
Right. I agree with the president on occasion but it doesn't mean I'm kissing his arse.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:56 pm to 4LSU2
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Does it make me a bad American to say I wish Vladimir resided at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in lieu of the current Kenyan that is destructing America in front of our eyes?
This may be most pathetic Putin arse kissing post I've ever seen. Yes, it makes you a horrible American to wish this. You think the oligarchy in this country sucks, why don't you go see how it is in Russia then?
Posted on 8/23/14 at 12:07 am to trackfan
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The U.S. had absolutely nothing to do with Mubarak's ouster, neither militarily nor diplomatically. If anything, the Obama administration was guilty of continuing to support him after it was a foregone conclusion that he couldn't survive, and then they conveniently jumped on the bandwagon after the fact, as though they had supported the overthrow all along.
Yeah right! Obama didn't back Mubarak at all he and his media allies were fully supportive of "the arab spring".
Posted on 8/23/14 at 12:15 am to constant cough
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Yeah right! Obama didn't back Mubarak at all he and his media allies were fully supportive of "the arab spring".
Like I said, the U.S. wasn't complicit in Mubarak's overthrow neither militarily nor diplomatically. There's no doubt that the U.S. has instigated its share of coups, most recently in Ukraine, but we had nothing to do with the downfall of Mubarak. Mubarak's problem (or virtue depending on the way you look at it) is that unlike Assad, he wasn't willing to get medieval to stay in power. General Al-Sisi, the new Egyptian dictator, has no such qualms.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 12:22 am to trackfan
Right, that was my point that if Assad fell the same thing would have happened in Syria that happened in Egypt, Islamist would have taken control. You're the one that brought up the US not I.
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