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re: OT lawyers. ..Ever think about hanging it up?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:31 pm to IonaTiger
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:31 pm to IonaTiger
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a lot more lawyers piss me off now a days.
I tend to enjoy the work I do and as I do more trial work I have started enjoying the work I do even more. But I agree with the above. I can actually deal with clients and their expectations. And the vast majority of lawyers are great to deal with. But there are a handful that I just cringe having to deal with to where I won't take a case if they are already enrolled on the other side.
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:33 pm to udtiger
If you are going on TV to get cases, why not go on TV and sell used cars, or insurance, or furniture?
Isn't TV lawyering basically just marketing and management mostly, anyway?
Isn't TV lawyering basically just marketing and management mostly, anyway?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:39 pm to Traffic Circle
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If you are going on TV to get cases, why not go on TV and sell used cars, or insurance, or furniture? Isn't TV lawyering basically just marketing and management mostly, anyway?
I think that can be true with some. There are some pretty sophisticated marketing firms involved in that part of the profession.
It's interesting that some of the TV lawyers are now competing on fees, with one offering a lower contingency fee than another.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:42 pm to udtiger
Every day. The problem is the money is just good enough to where the crap is almost worth it. Having days when your boss, client, opposing counsel, and the court/arbitrator/government all hate you gets to be soul crushing.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:46 pm to udtiger
My cousin was a partner at a NOLA firm and hung it up to go to LSU Medical School.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:49 pm to Red Stick Tigress
Find that hard to believe.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:57 pm to udtiger
I have thought about it through the years, but at the end of the day I always was able to define a new goal regarding the type of work that I was doing, and for a long time I have been really happy.
One of the best things I ever did was brainstorm the things that make me happy and the things that make me stressed and then try to find patterns. After about 30 minutes of looking at those lists, I was able to easily determine that some of the things that take up most of my time (and therefore can be stress-inducing and frustrating) are actually the things that fulfill me the most. Once I realized that, I stopped begrudging the time I spent on those things.
Maybe it is the your-time-is-money aspect of being a lawyer, but in my unhappiest times I was always thinking about what I wasn't doing when I was busy doing other things. Realizing that the time I was spending was meaningful to my self-worth helped me live in the moment when I am doing those things---which included working hard as an attorney, even during those times when I feel like I am slacking at home. And likewise, I now am more mindful of embracing the moments that I spend with my kids, even when I could feel guilty because I am behind at work. Any moment spent performing tasks that I value and that add to my personal fulfillment are now moments that I am happy.
I guess that is the definition of balance, but I spent too many years in a "grass is greener" mentality to appreciate those moments that define the balance.
One of the best things I ever did was brainstorm the things that make me happy and the things that make me stressed and then try to find patterns. After about 30 minutes of looking at those lists, I was able to easily determine that some of the things that take up most of my time (and therefore can be stress-inducing and frustrating) are actually the things that fulfill me the most. Once I realized that, I stopped begrudging the time I spent on those things.
Maybe it is the your-time-is-money aspect of being a lawyer, but in my unhappiest times I was always thinking about what I wasn't doing when I was busy doing other things. Realizing that the time I was spending was meaningful to my self-worth helped me live in the moment when I am doing those things---which included working hard as an attorney, even during those times when I feel like I am slacking at home. And likewise, I now am more mindful of embracing the moments that I spend with my kids, even when I could feel guilty because I am behind at work. Any moment spent performing tasks that I value and that add to my personal fulfillment are now moments that I am happy.
I guess that is the definition of balance, but I spent too many years in a "grass is greener" mentality to appreciate those moments that define the balance.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:59 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Every day. The problem is the money is just good enough to where the crap is almost worth it. Having days when your boss, staff, client, opposing counsel, and the court/arbitrator/government all hate you gets to be soul crushing.
FIFY. This.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:59 pm to lighter345
It is true. He went from being a partner at a NOLA firm to an M.D. at Tulane.
He did this late in life too. He's 60 and only been practicing medicine for about 15 years.
He did this late in life too. He's 60 and only been practicing medicine for about 15 years.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:59 pm to Red Stick Tigress
One of my cousins did the same thing. And I know two others that went to med-school after getting a JD.
ETA: My cousin did it late in life as well. The other two pretty quickly.
ETA: My cousin did it late in life as well. The other two pretty quickly.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:02 pm to slam627
I'm sensing a common theme. Good stuff.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:04 pm to Artie Rome
Artie, the thing is I don't want to live in MS anymore. I want a change of scenery. I don't know if it's worth going through the trouble of being aemitted to another state bar, though.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:06 pm to SabiDojo
It's not that much trouble man. Do you have reasons to move other than "the grass is greener" nagging mentioned above? If so then maybe that's what you should do.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:06 pm to SabiDojo
Alabama now has reciprocity with 22 states, (incuding Colorado) does Mississippi do this
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:07 pm to SabiDojo
No one gets out of MS alive.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:09 pm to SabiDojo
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Artie, the thing is I don't want to live in MS anymore.
Damn, if you had told me you were going to live north of I-10 in MS I could have told you this day was coming.
Now if you were on the coast, we'd be 5 years away from today.
Taking another bar just feels nightmarish. I guess I'll try to get Texas so if shite goes south here, I'll go there.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:11 pm to Artie Rome
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It's not that much trouble man. Do you have reasons to move other than "the grass is greener" nagging mentioned above? If so then maybe that's what you should do.
I know it sounds silly, but I just want a change of geographical scenery. It's so flat here and I'm tired of the long, hot humid summers. Also, there just isn't a lot here. I want my kids to have more opportunities, more amenities.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:12 pm to mattloc
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Alabama now has reciprocity with 22 states, (incuding Colorado) does Mississippi do this
I know they do, but I don't know if it's that many.
I'm licensed in LA too, fwiw.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:13 pm to SabiDojo
I'd suggest Colorado or maybe North Carolina.
Those states seem seasonally ideal to me.
Those states seem seasonally ideal to me.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:13 pm to rmc
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But there are a handful that I just cringe having to deal with to where I won't take a case if they are already enrolled on the other side.
Then those shitfricks, and may they burn in hell, win.
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