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re: Video of Michael Brown dead in street - WARNING, GRAPHIC
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:28 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:28 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Vegas Bengal asked, "What am I missing here?"
Answer: An open mind.
As always.
Answer: An open mind.
As always.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:28 pm to papasmurf1269
quote:I'm guessing an SUV. Would explain the ability of the officer to grab around the neck area, although I don't know if that's what really happened.
IDK. Might have been a SUV type vehicle.
My take is that there was an alteration and Brown tussled with the officer then tried to run away. Probably was hit or heard gunshots so then in a panic raised his arms to surrender but instead of dropping to his knees where he was he ran back to the officer as if to undue the mistake of running away.
Strange behavior, as his friend was clearly not a total thug himself. His friend actually put the blunts that Brown gave him back on the counter. I imagine that the whole day might have been out of character for Michael Brown.
I know that the crime techs have to deal with the scene, but usually there is some attempt to put up a blind or something to block the view. I don't believe that "fiber" evidence comes into play when the cops shoot someone. It's not like it was a mystery who shot him.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:29 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:if he did keep shooting while he was running away,then imo he is in a lot of trouble.
My question is did the cop continue firing as Brown ran?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:31 pm to mmcgrath
Sounds as if you believe Brown was the victim and the cop the aggressor without waiting for all the evidence.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:36 pm to papasmurf1269
quote:No. I think that the initial struggle was from Michael Brown. When Michael runs back towards the police officer (who has already engaged in a tussle and may be stunned) the officer could easily and understandably interpret it as an attack. I am 50/50 on whether that last part was a bad mistake or suicide by cop on Michael Brown's part.
Sounds as if you believe Brown was the victim and the cop the aggressor without waiting for all the evidence.
But that is just my impression so far. In this case I wouldn't be surprised to see some new evidence that throws everything out the window.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:39 pm to KCT
It's your time of the month Katy?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:40 pm to Rex
That's a lot of grown men and women standing around.
Shouldn't they be at work?
Shouldn't they be at work?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:42 pm to mmcgrath
They haven't released the full autopsy report. So we don't know how many times he was shot and what parts of the body. I'll reserve judgment until then.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:42 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:Apparently this earns 3 down votes when Rex is the one getting credit.
I say give credit where credit is due.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:44 pm to mmcgrath
Ok. I gotcha. There will most assuredly be some new evidence come out that we haven't heard.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 11:33 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
I know that the crime techs have to deal with the scene, but usually there is some attempt to put up a blind or something to block the view. I don't believe that "fiber" evidence comes into play when the cops shoot someone. It's not like it was a mystery who shot him.
Ideally you never want to add anything to the scene that wasn't there at the time of the shooting (blanket over a body). It is done sometimes as a favor to the family (especially SIDS deaths in a home). It could've been done here and I would not have had a problem due to the amount of onlookers. "Blinds" would also normally be put up to block the view of the body but maybe in this case with it being an officer involved shooting they were trying to be transparent with how the body and evidence around the body was handled, idk.
As far as fibers you would absolutely want to look for fibers and DNA. If the officer's contention is there was a struggle, fibers from his uniform or his DNA on the body of the deceased would validate that. It's not always about finding out who the suspect is but instead proving or disproving their claims.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 11:42 pm to Rex
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I have no reason to believe the eyewitness in the video is lying. This exonerates Darren Wilson in my mind, even when it might not in some court.
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:24 am to Rex
Wow....there is some serious hostility towards the police in that area. They really should have covered the body sooner, especially when drawing an audience.
So, the officer who shot Brown was driving the Tahoe patrol vehicle with the caution tape tied to the mirror to the left of the person videotaping? Is that what they mean when they say "truck"?
Is Brown aimed toward or away from the police vehicle?
How far away do you think that is? 50 feet? Did they move the police cruiser involved with this before the video was shot?
So, the officer who shot Brown was driving the Tahoe patrol vehicle with the caution tape tied to the mirror to the left of the person videotaping? Is that what they mean when they say "truck"?
Is Brown aimed toward or away from the police vehicle?
How far away do you think that is? 50 feet? Did they move the police cruiser involved with this before the video was shot?
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 12:35 am
Posted on 8/17/14 at 3:08 am to member12
The first thing I noticed is how nonchalant these people are about this.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:46 am to tracytiger
quote:
That's a lot of grown men and women standing around.
quote:
Shouldn't they be at work?
Posted on 8/17/14 at 6:59 am to TrapperJohn
It amazes me that so many in that video have their minds already made up to what happened. Even after uttering the words" I didn't see it, but........." Hopefully the facts come out, and the truth is found. No matter whst, if the truth shows the cop was unjustified or Brown was foolish we should all except it. The truth is all that matters, not what someones wants it to be. To many people let their feelings dictate how one sees something. Does it look like this Brown fellow was up to no good or could've been a punk. Sure, but iif he didn't attack the officer, he didn't deserve to get shot. Now if Brown attacked the officer, that changes everything.....
The police should've covered the body. This seemed to only help the anger build with the body just laying uncovered like that. At that point, it doesn't matter what evidence they'd maybe mess up. Respect should take precedent in certain situtions, this was one of those situtations.
The police should've covered the body. This seemed to only help the anger build with the body just laying uncovered like that. At that point, it doesn't matter what evidence they'd maybe mess up. Respect should take precedent in certain situtions, this was one of those situtations.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:00 am to Rex
quote:
I was confused by the eyewitness's use of the word "truck" to describe the police vehicle. Was it a truck, a car, a SUV? Is "truck" some slang for a police car?
In a recent episode of "The First 48" a couple of witnesses to a shooting kept referring to the suspect's vehicle as a truck. It was a Yukon, or something similar. The detectives never questioned the term.
Based on that, perhaps 'truck' is a slang term for SUV in the black community.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:08 pm to Rex
I imagine they are going to have a lot of "eye witnesses" coming forward.
If that one is true, the cop is in trouble. I'm wondering if that police Tahoe in the video is the vehicle in question, and how Brown got so far from it without running away....or how he is turned towards the "truck".
If that one is true, the cop is in trouble. I'm wondering if that police Tahoe in the video is the vehicle in question, and how Brown got so far from it without running away....or how he is turned towards the "truck".
Posted on 8/17/14 at 12:20 pm to member12
I heard he was shot in the back but I don't see any blood there
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