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re: Video of Michael Brown dead in street - WARNING, GRAPHIC
Posted on 8/16/14 at 8:59 pm to fleaux
Posted on 8/16/14 at 8:59 pm to fleaux
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Just saw an interview with Dorian Johnson's lawyer, hes claiming that the officer grabbed mike brown by the throat while he was sitting in his car.
That never sounded credible to me, and now after this video I seriously doubt Brown held up his hands in surrender, either.
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:09 pm to Rex
I think it's very possible that the cop shot the guy for no good reason. They do it all the time. My question is why is this incident an example if systemic racism?
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:11 pm to UL-SabanRival
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I think it's very possible that the cop shot the guy for no good reason. They do it all the time.
Wow
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:28 pm to Rex
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I noticed, also, that the eyewitness doesn't say that Michael Brown had his hands up in surrender, although one would think it quite critical to the entire affair.
Have not watched the video, saw a segment of a u-tube video that I think must be the same one. Is this eye-witness the same one who was with Brown at the robbery?
Or is there another eye-witness?
Haven't kept up with this much - was on a camping trip when it happened and been busy for past three days.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:31 pm to Meauxjeaux
So the cops say he was walking in the street and the officer approached him. Yada Yada Then Brown went for the officers gun.
Then this video, according to you and Rex shows he ran from the cop. Then he turned around and came for the cop and then the police officer fired on him?
Why would Brown run from a guy with a gun, then turn around, unarmed, and come for the armed guy?
The only way this scenario makes sense is if the cop began shooting as Brown was running away. Once shot, then he turned around.
What am I missing here?
btw I haven't given or formed an opinion yet.
Then this video, according to you and Rex shows he ran from the cop. Then he turned around and came for the cop and then the police officer fired on him?
Why would Brown run from a guy with a gun, then turn around, unarmed, and come for the armed guy?
The only way this scenario makes sense is if the cop began shooting as Brown was running away. Once shot, then he turned around.
What am I missing here?
btw I haven't given or formed an opinion yet.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:33 pm to ChineseBandit58
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Or is there another eye-witness?
Another eyewitness within the 10 minute video.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:34 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Then this video, according to you and Rex shows he ran from the cop. Then he turned around and came for the cop and then the police officer fired on him?
Why would Brown run from a guy with a gun, then turn around, unarmed, and come for the armed guy?
The only way this scenario makes sense is if the cop began shooting as Brown was running away. Once shot, then he turned around.
What am I missing here?
I have the same reservations - have to wait for some kind of competent investigation. Don't know if that is even possible in this shite-storm.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:37 pm to fleaux
The OT alone has posted several unprovoked cop shooting videos and articles in the last year alone. This is not exclusive to one instance.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:39 pm to Vegas Bengal
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The only way this scenario makes sense
Taking the other side, how would it make sense that this random witness take lines up dead exact on with the radio phone call telling the cops side - which was called in well before this tape was publicized as having this.
That would be the coincidence of the century.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:40 pm to Rex
quote:Damn,some logical reasoning from Rex. :upvote:
I have no reason to believe the eyewitness in the video is lying. This exonerates Darren Wilson in my mind, even when it might not in some court.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:42 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Why would Brown run from a guy with a gun, then turn around, unarmed, and come for the armed guy?
Don't know, but the eyewitness in the video didn't say that the policeman was firing as Brown ran away.
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The only way this scenario makes sense is if the cop began shooting as Brown was running away.
No, it could also make sense if the cop yelled at him "stop or I'll shoot", or if Brown simply got tired of running, or if Brown was stupid, or if Brown was cocky, or.... who knows what else.
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Once shot, then he turned around.
Could be, but this video doesn't support that theory. The autopsy might.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:45 pm to Vegas Bengal
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What is "the cops side"?
We don't really know, but someone (Meauxjeaux, I believe) posted the cop's friend's interview account of what happened... and it aligns extremely closely with what the eyewitness in this video says.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:50 pm to Vegas Bengal
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:50 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:There was a radio snippet posted here the other day and it was from a family friend of the cop that stated the cop asked the two young men to move from the road to the sidewalk.
What is "the cops side"?
Words were exchanged cop drove forward and overheard call on radio about robbery and he backed up and questioned the two guys and scuffle ensued and guy grabbed for cops gun.
Gun discharged and big boy ran and was told to "freeze" and he stopped and turned around and charged cop and cop fired until guy dropped. All hearsay,I know but that's what the caller said
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:51 pm to Rex
Damn, I really like reasonable Rex. Wish he showed up more often
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:54 pm to Rex
I googled and didn't see any 911 call that is similar to this tape. I couldn't find any 911 call.
This is what the cops are saying:
I don't see where the cops say he was running away.
The other guy in the video says "how did he get from there to there?" And the guy says "he ran". He then describes a scenario where he ran, then turns around then the cop starts shooting.
That doesn't correlate with the cop's version.
This is what the cops are saying:
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The incident happened in a roadway Saturday afternoon near the Canfield Green Apartments in the 2900 block of Canfield Drive in Ferguson. Police said officer Wilson and Brown, as well as one of Brown's friends, became engaged in a struggle in the officer's patrol car. Police said one of the men pushed officer Wilson and then physically assaulted him in the car. They then reportedly struggled over the gun, according to police. Wilson then fatally shot Brown. “One of those individuals at the time allegedly pushed the officer back into this car,” St. Louis County Chief of Police Jon Belmar said. “[He] physically assaulted the police officer.” Belmar says the officer fired once from in his car, exited the vehicle and fired multiple times.
I don't see where the cops say he was running away.
The other guy in the video says "how did he get from there to there?" And the guy says "he ran". He then describes a scenario where he ran, then turns around then the cop starts shooting.
That doesn't correlate with the cop's version.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:54 pm to Rex
Two things:
(1) I was raised to give credit where credit is due. Rex did a good job of objectively interpreting what is happening in this video. I will give him an upvote for the first time ever in a minute.
(2) Is anybody surprised that the media would edit out any footage which might help exonerate the white police officer? They did the same damn thing to George Zimmerman. Multiple times.
#waronwhitepeiple
(1) I was raised to give credit where credit is due. Rex did a good job of objectively interpreting what is happening in this video. I will give him an upvote for the first time ever in a minute.
(2) Is anybody surprised that the media would edit out any footage which might help exonerate the white police officer? They did the same damn thing to George Zimmerman. Multiple times.
#waronwhitepeiple
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:56 pm to Rex
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This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/16/14 at 9:58 pm to L.A.
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Unless there's some cop/forensics reason of which I am unaware, to leave the body uncovered out in the street like that seems totally disrespectful to the deceased and his family
Crime Scene Techs or Coroner bags the body.
You never cover the body because you can alter or transfer DNA, fibers, and other evidence, etc...
Patrol officers are instructed to secure the area and wait for crime scene techs and/or detectives to arrive and take control of scene and to not touch the body.
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