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re: Anthony Davis will start for team USA
Posted on 8/6/14 at 7:46 am to corndeaux
Posted on 8/6/14 at 7:46 am to corndeaux
I honestly think he is gonna develop into a 4 that no one has ever seen before. I can't think of any player I've ever seen that has the ceiling of AD. Somebody probably has a historical reference but AD is seriously unlocking the best of every stat in basketball. He is developing offense at a rate that will definitely lead him to averaging 25ppg at minimum through 3pt, mid-range, and post game. Has the defense that matches up with the best of defensive only players through blocks and being able to guard nearly any position effectively. Can rebound extremely effectively and his passing game will go through the roof with all the attention he will be drawing once all his skill sets turn into a consistent polished player on a night in and out basis. So glad we lucked into picking him... couldn't have been a better year to use our luck up.
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 7:50 am to corndeaux
Thank you. I don't know why guys try to re-engineer what Davis is and minimize his strengths. He's not a perimeter player. He is a dominant post player. The team should emphasize this and take advantage of it. There are very few in the league.
Btw, I wasn't opposed to picking up Asik. I just don't think he fits on the team along with Anderson. One or the other is going to suffer. That's just math. Someone's minutes have to go down. That will just ruin their value. Look at what happened to Evans. Plus I'm not sure it helps the teams record overall. Not with the holes we still have..
Btw, I wasn't opposed to picking up Asik. I just don't think he fits on the team along with Anderson. One or the other is going to suffer. That's just math. Someone's minutes have to go down. That will just ruin their value. Look at what happened to Evans. Plus I'm not sure it helps the teams record overall. Not with the holes we still have..
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:18 am to brmark70816
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Someone's minutes have to go down
Two years ago when Ryno was a prominent player off of the bench he averaged 30 minutes per game. Two years ago when Asik was a prominent starter he averaged 30 minutes per game. That's 60 of the 96 minutes at the PF and C positions. That leaves 36 minutes for Davis, which would be perfect IMO.
ETA: maybe 3 attempts per game is stretching it. If you look at his made threes last season (there were two of them), he wasn't camping behind the line. They were set plays where he lost his man, ran to the corner, spotted up and took the shot. Maybe 1.5 per game would be more reasonable.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 8:26 am
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:23 am to Epic Cajun
Ya I don't see any of our players having to sacrifice many minutes because of Asik. The sixth man can easily get 25+ minutes a game while all your starters get 30+.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:25 am to brmark70816
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I don't know why guys try to re-engineer what Davis is and minimize his strengths.
Because Shaq redefined how we think of centers and AD would get abused by Shaq. But I don't think you can say guys like Olajuwon and The Admiral were that much beefier than AD will likely be in another 5 years.
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Btw, I wasn't opposed to picking up Asik. I just don't think he fits on the team along with Anderson.
I disagree here. Despite thinking AD can handle the center duties just fine long term, on paper AD/Asik/Ryno seems like a perfectly balanced 3 big rotation.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 8:27 am
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:28 am to Epic Cajun
So we are only going to play 3 guys across 2 positions for the whole season? How realistic is that? What happens if/when the Davis/Anderson combo is killing it and Asik's minutes gets cut or he is benched? Is he going to throw another fit?
Also, Anderson was having a monster season last year. He was averaging almost 20ppg in 36mpg. You want to cut his minutes?
Also, Anderson was having a monster season last year. He was averaging almost 20ppg in 36mpg. You want to cut his minutes?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:30 am to brmark70816
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Also, Anderson was having a monster season last year. He was averaging almost 20ppg in 36mpg. You want to cut his minutes?
Yes, there is one than one side of the ball. He wasn't killing it defensively. He was only getting that many minutes because of injuries/terrible other post players.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:31 am to brmark70816
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What happens if/when the Davis/Anderson combo is killing it and Asik's minutes gets cut or he is benched?
Monty has been lusting after a legit center ever since Lopez left. Asik will get plenty of minutes in the regular season. Where he might lose minutes is in a playoff series where he doesn't matchup well, see San Antonio where they favored Splitter in some series and Diaw in others.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:45 am to TigerinATL
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Monty has been lusting after a legit center ever since Lopez left.
That is great and I'm sure it is true. But when we had Lopez, he averaged 26mpg. Davis only averaged 29mpg. Anderson led the group at close to 31mpg. We did have Smith, but he missed a lot of time.
So just using that season as an example, with no other bigs getting major minutes. Asik gets 30mpg, Davis stays at 35-36mpg (like last season), that would leave Anderson at less than 25mpg. Right?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:51 am to brmark70816
Hopefully they don't play the shite sandwich of Ajinça, Withey, or Young very many minutes.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 8:56 am to brmark70816
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with no other bigs getting major minutes. Asik gets 30mpg, Davis stays at 35-36mpg (like last season), that would leave Anderson at less than 25mpg. Right?
Incorrect. 48 x 2 = 96. 96 - 30 = 66 - 36 = 30.
If you have a tight 3 big rotation other than injury or foul trouble, there's no reason Anderson and Asik both can't get 30 mpg. If anyone does get shorted I think it will be Asik, and him not being happy in his role is one of my concerns for resigning him, but if he's getting at least 25 MPG I think he'll be good. No other playoff caliber team would offer him a significantly bigger role.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 8:57 am
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:12 am to TigerinATL
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Incorrect. 48 x 2 = 96. 96 - 30 = 66 - 36 = 30.
I understand the math. I'm taking in practical terms. We have 2-3 guys (Ajinca, Withey, Young?) that will get some minutes. Maybe it's just in garbage time or due to injury, but they will play. Those minutes will pull from that group.
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but if he's getting at least 25 MPG I think he'll be good.
I think that's where he will end up. I just don't know how he'll react to a diminished role or being a back up. He didn't take it well the last time..
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:17 am to corndeaux
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The Spurs start Splitter, Blair, Nesterovic, Admiral, etc because Duncan can play outside the paint and they can save him some wear and te
Please refrain from grouping David Robinson with these scrubs. Even at the end of his career he was in a totally different league then these guys. Ok carry on.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:20 am to brmark70816
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I just don't know how he'll react to a diminished role
It's actually an expanded role compared to last year, and if the team has a good defense, Asik's probably going to get a lot of credit and praise. I think it also makes a difference that in Houston he got demoted and immediately put on the trade block. Yes he pouted for a year, but he wasn't without his reasons. I don't think he'll feel unwanted or unneeded here, and with so many other quality centers on the market, I'm not too worried. The only threat would be something we saw with Al Jefferson getting a max from a laughing stock like Charlotte, but considering Asik's lack of offense, I just can't see a lower level team going after him with much more than the $12 million we're probably expecting to pay at the high end.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 9:20 am to TigerinATL
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but if he's getting at least 25 MPG I think he'll be good
This is kind of my sentiment. I don't think your big boy bruising his way around the court should be playing 35 MPG anyways. 25-30 is about the perfect amount and should allow him to stay somewhat fresh/effective. I think people may be overplaying the "unhappiness" in Houston. He's a C. Dwight's arguably the best C in the league (before the Rocketards roll in, you could easily make a case for Marc Gasol). The other 2 here are PFs. He has little to no competition for that C spot unless we are going small with Davis at the 5.
Let us also not forget that Ryno is coming off back/neck problems and probably doesn't need to be playing 30+ a game until the playoffs.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:53 am to ShamelessPel
My best guess:
AD: 33 Min
Asik: 28 Min
Ryno: 27 Min
That'll leave about 10 min for a 4th big(which is all they need really)
AD: 33 Min
Asik: 28 Min
Ryno: 27 Min
That'll leave about 10 min for a 4th big(which is all they need really)
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 11:54 am
Posted on 8/6/14 at 3:23 pm to LosLobos111
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My best guess:
AD: 33 Min
This seems too low.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 3:35 pm to LosLobos111
AD should be playing 38-39 minutes a night if he can handle it. If his game starts to suffer then scale it back but we're banking on Davis being a top ten player in the league this year no way he averages less than 36.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 3:36 pm to LosLobos111
no reason AD should be playing fewer than 36-38 MPG.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 3:44 pm to quail man
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no reason AD should be playing fewer than 36-38 MPG.
Blowouts. Lots and lots of blowouts.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 3:45 pm
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