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re: Throw back: Bush throws out first pitch shortly after 9-11
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:51 pm to goatmilker
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:51 pm to goatmilker
quote:You want a cookie?
I said that
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Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:54 pm to papasmurf1269
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:27 pm to Hawkeye95
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He was a Leader
he definitely was decisive, leading post 9/11 was an easy task as we rallied behind him.
I'll give Bush that. Post 9/11 was a scary time and the guy was decisive, stalwart, like a rock etc etc. All the kinds of things people looked to in a leader in scary times. Unfortunately he decisively did a lot of things that were, well, garbage. I'm referring to the Patriot Act here in particular.
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his intentions were good
his intentions are good, but he was surrounded by people who had bad intentions IMHO. He was deceived by his advisers
I think he gave his advisers (Cheney especially) too much of a leash. He was also probably naive in trusting people he appointed to the extent that he did. This includes both the intelligence RE: the Iraq war (and I would remind the board that Senators Clinton, Biden, and Kerry all voted in favor of this) and things like the bank bailouts.
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He was a pretty shitty president. Obama isn't an improvement
God damn, since when did I start agreeing with Hawkeye so much...
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GWB is going to go down as likely the worst president in the modern era
May or may not be deserved when held up vs Carter or Obama, but yeah this will most likely happen. He still isn't as bad as some of the Presidents we had pre-Civil War. That's less a statement of how bad Bush was and more an emphasis on how BAD some of our Presidents have truly been. I'm looking at you, Buchanan.
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the denial is strong here. Bush was very unpopular across the board, not just with liberals.
God damn, more agreement with Hawkeye. WTF is going on...
I still greatly prefer Bush as a painter than a President.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:38 pm to AUin02
quote:Obama says hell no
quote: GWB is going to go down as likely the worst president in the modern era
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:44 pm to papasmurf1269
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quote: GWB is going to go down as likely the worst president in the modern era
Obama says hell no
If the liberals truly control the narrative to the extent that much of this board claims they do, then yes.
The perception becomes the reality in this case as who controls the past now controls the future, who controls the present now controls the past.
Personally I think Obama is a worse president, but I don't write any history books.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:58 pm to tigerpawl
quote:He either purposefully or unintentionally surrounded himself with the scariest staff ever. At some point that has to be on him.
He was a Leader and his intentions were good.
I don't care if he didn't pay attention to the "Bin Laden determined to attack" memo's. Someone else in that room should have said something.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:00 pm to tigerpawl
I'm in Dallas right now. The country misses him too.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:14 pm to asurob1
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He makes the current administration look positively presidential.
Yep. I'm out. Goodnight.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:15 pm to mmcgrath
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I don't care if he didn't pay attention to the "Bin Laden determined to attack" memo's. Someone else in that room should have said something.
What difference does it make?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:26 pm to tigerpawl
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Yes - he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer
I wonder how your IQ would stand up against his. Some of you people are fricking hopeless
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:43 pm to tigerpawl
Great moment...I miss him too!!
And he is a lot smarter than both men he defeated in presidential elections...W has a Harvard MBA and graduated from Air Force flight school too! He's plenty sharp!
And he is a lot smarter than both men he defeated in presidential elections...W has a Harvard MBA and graduated from Air Force flight school too! He's plenty sharp!
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:51 pm to LSUandAU
The guy wasn't very bright. Let's not rewrite history.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:14 pm to asurob1
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You can circle jerk around his image all you want...but remember this. Barack Obama would not be in office today, if W had been a half decent president
Right...because blacks would not have voted overwhelmingly for him otherwise and voted for McCain instead.
Bartender, gimme what the incoherent idiot on the floor is having...I've GOT to try some of that.
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