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re: Israel strikes UN school and market

Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:10 pm to
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Italians and japs supported the nazis too. Even Jewish individuals collaborated with nazi regime


Irrelevant.

Besides, The Italians and Japs were taken care of by the Allied Forces.

The Palestinians actually wanted to wipe the Jews in the ME off the face of the Earth during WW2 and they still do today.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:15 pm to
And they wanted to wipe them off the face of the earth 1400 years ago as well and will still want the same thing in 1500 more years. Your point other than proving some really obscure point about ww2 is?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:18 pm to
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Who in the frick cares who supported who in ww2 you dolt.


The Jews now living in Israel, you cock sucking moron.

The Jews remember what the Palestinians wanted to do to ME Jews during WW2 and they know the Palestinians still want to do it today.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19102 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:22 pm to
Lobbing shells, firing missiles, and dropping bombs isn't going to do much more than kill a lot of innocent people and destroy a lot of infrastructure. IMO, if the IDF wants to root out and defeat their enemy, they're going to have to take the fight directly to where the enemy is located, building by building, tunnel by tunnel.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:23 pm to
So we should look for the IDF to storm Berlin next? If you are being serious about this I apologise, I am sure you are correct, this whole episode is over a politicians actions 70 years ago.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:27 pm to
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And they wanted to wipe them off the face of the earth 1400 years ago as well and will still want the same thing in 1500 more years. Your point other than proving some really obscure point about ww2 is?


The Palestinians hate the Jews and still want to wipe them off the face of the earth today.

BTW, it's not an obscure point but it sounds like you wish it was.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:34 pm to
Palestinian woman on Fox just stated when she was a kid Hamas used her as a human shield.

No one can say that Hamas didn't start this.

No one can say that Hamas isn't the one that keeps fighting through the cease fires.

No one can say that Hamas isn't placing missiles in U.N. schools, thus making them a legitimate target.

No one can deny that Hamas is using kids to shield their missiles.

No one can deny that Hamas is a terrorist organization.

That is NO ONE BUT STUPID, DUMB, POS's.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 12:51 am
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:38 pm to
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So we should look for the IDF to storm Berlin next?


Why?

As I pointed out, the Germans apologized for the Holocaust and are paying restitution until 2015.

Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:40 pm to
Go back and read your post, no one disputes the hatred between the Palestinians and Jews. It is your hardon for the ww2 angle that is obscure. The sky is blue, water is wet, and the jews and muslims hate each other. This was true for over 1000 years before Hitler was born and will be true 1000 years after he died, it has almost zero to do with ww2 support of Nazi's.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:43 pm to
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if the IDF wants to root out and defeat their enemy, they're going to have to take the fight directly to where the enemy is located, building by building, tunnel by tunnel.

They'll never do that because they don't have the stomach for it, despite the fact that it would spare them all the international criticism and worldwide hatred.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:45 pm to
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Why?

As I pointed out, the Germans apologized for the Holocaust and are paying restitution until 2015.

Still this WWII nonsense? Jesus Christ, get a freakin' clue.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:50 pm to
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The Palestinians hate the Jews and still want to wipe them off the face of the earth today.

BTW, it's not an obscure point but it sounds like you wish it was.

If you sincerely believe that all Palestinians in 2014 should be held accountable for the WORDS of some Palestinian guy 70 years ago, can I assume that you also believe that all Israelis should be held responsible for the ACTIONS of the Israeli military 47 years ago, when they attacked the USS Liberty, and still to this day have not fessed up about.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:52 pm to
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The whole "wipe them off the face of the earth" shtick is laughable. All one has to do is look at the maps since 1967 and see who exactly is being wiped off the map and pushed into the sea.

Anyone with two eyes and can see this.

Be careful, Noname. The Israel-firsters can't handle the truth.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:54 pm to
They'll never do that because they don't have the stomach for it, despite the fact that it would spare them all the international criticism and worldwide hatred.


This x 1000000000

If the IDF was doing a systematic search and targeting Hamas specifically no one on earth would give a shite. Sending your military into a packed city and just piling up bodies is going to give a lot of folks heartburn.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:00 pm to
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If you sincerely believe that all Palestinians in 2014 should be held accountable for the WORDS of some Palestinian guy 70 years ago, can I assume that you also believe that all Israelis should be held responsible for the ACTIONS of the Israeli military 47 years ago, when they attacked the USS Liberty, and still to this day have not fessed up about.


Why have the Palestinians NEVER apologized to the Jews for the Grand Mufti's actions?

Have the Jews EVER conspired with anyone to try to wipe the Palestinians off the face of the Earth?
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19102 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

They'll never do that because they don't have the stomach for it, despite the fact that it would spare them all the international criticism and worldwide hatred.

IDF can fight from the periphery all they want but I don't think it will get them anywhere. I guess we'll see but IMHO, taking the fight directly to Hamas is the only way I can see them rooting them out.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:04 pm to
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That's a much better strategy. Destroying the infrastructure and mounting civilian casualties isn't going to make Hamas surrender. Hamas is literally dug in.


Hamas is literally dug in and fighting the war on two separate fronts. Egypt is quietly bombing the hell out of them and blowing up every tunnel they can find in conjunction with Israel. Right now its all about completely destroying the vast tunnel network that was allowed to operate from Egypt for years. Egypt has blown up over 1600 tunnels since they started cracking down on the Islamic Brotherhood and Hamas.

By the time this is over with Gaza will be a ghost town and even more isolated than it is right now.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:09 pm to
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Why have the Palestinians NEVER apologized to the Jews for the Grand Mufti's actions?

Have the Jews EVER conspired with anyone to try to wipe the Palestinians off the face of the Earth?

Never mind. I mistakenly thought you were interested in serious debate.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19102 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:11 pm to
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By the time this is over with Gaza will be a ghost town and even more isolated than it is right now.

You may be right but I don't think bombs and shelling will win this for IDF. At some point, they're going to have to actually fight a ground battle from where the enemy is located.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 10:16 pm
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:17 pm to
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Hamas is literally dug in and fighting the war on two separate fronts. Egypt is quietly bombing the hell out of them and blowing up every tunnel they can find in conjunction with Israel. Right now its all about completely destroying the vast tunnel network that was allowed to operate from Egypt for years. Egypt has blown up over 1600 tunnels since they started cracking down on the Islamic Brotherhood and Hamas.

By the time this is over with Gaza will be a ghost town and even more isolated than it is right now.

You may be right. General Al-Sisi is building a reputation as the most despised leader in the Arab world, and he was roundly criticized throughout the Mideast for his joke of a ceasefire proposal. Gaddafi, Saddam and Arafat may have been tyrants, but at least they weren't collaborators.
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